I am using the term civilization in classic history context:
Surplus food supply, specialization and division of labour, political power structures and infrastructure, standing armies.
You are using in terms of social democracies like nordics
But even that context, social democracies are just another regime that’s rooted in the state having monopoly on violence that it is used to protect property of the owner class.
They just happen to treat their in group decently. But even that’s now eroding.
I am using the term civilization in classic history context:
Surplus food supply, specialization and division of labour, political power structures and infrastructure, standing armies.
You are using in terms of social democracies like nordics
But even that context, social democracies are just another regime that’s rooted in the state having monopoly on violence that it is used to protect property of the owner class.
They just happen to treat their in group decently. But even that’s now eroding.