End of September, Switzerland will vote for E-ID. A big threat for our privacy as it will widely used for tons of new use cases.

Behind the government pitch of an “open source project, completely optional” hides big tech industry… Which will make it mandatory to access their services.

What are your thoughts on that ?

#Switzerland #Privacymatters

  • exu@feditown.com
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    15 hours ago

    I’m in favour of it.

    Contrary to the last time this was proposed, the government is in control of it instead of private corporations.

    This will also be an alternative to any of the current online ID verification, which involve sending photos of your ID, videos of it and videos of yourself to some random third party for verification.

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      14 hours ago

      My point of views is it will be used more broadly, in every services. So, even if it will be “optional”,there will be no option to choose not to use it.

      • Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de
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        13 hours ago

        There is an article in the proposed law that e-ID is only allowed to be required for actions, where the law explicitly requires authentication.

        In this proposed law there is no article that explicitly forces services to require a ID

        So it only applies to services that used to require identification since a long time, lime buying alcohol, money laundering protection, some government stuff you had to do physically prior etc.

        But there is a new law coming which sadly did mot get a referendum, that requires age verification for 18+ media like video and games. But this law will take effect no matter if e-ID is accepted or not. So if e-ID was declined, you would have to scan the compete ID, do a liveness selfie and send it to private companies like Netflix to watch 18+ stuff there.

        With e-ID, you can proof you’re old enough without revealing name, gender, body hight etc.

        Please inform yourself correctly before spreading nonsense

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          13 hours ago

          Mm yes the law, a thing that can never be changed, that big tech definitely doesn’t have power to influence, and a concept that other countries definitely won’t be “inspired” by

          • Schlemmy@lemmy.ml
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            7 hours ago

            Switserland is quite unique. They have referenda for big changes and are pretty conservative. Besides from that, they’re all armed and battle ready ;-)

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            8 hours ago

            In Switzerland, any law changes can be prevented by a referendum

            So, no, in Switzerland, the law can not just be changed.

            • harfang@slrpnk.netOP
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              7 hours ago

              “Can be”, we know that citizens do not have criticism sense for technologies matters

              • Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de
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                5 hours ago

                Yes, but the e-ID won’t change that.

                If no e-ID is existent, you’ll have to upload a scan of your real world ID instead, with all unneeded data included.

                • harfang@slrpnk.netOP
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                  1 hour ago

                  I use my ID maybe 1x per year at the moment.

                  The ides of EID is to make it usable to access commons services such are bank, streaming, alcohol shop, sex shop and many else…which will make is use in many context where is unused at the moment.

                  • Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de
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                    1 hour ago

                    You need to verify age for all these services already, if you offer those. (Except 18+ streaming).

                    E-ID will not changed those laws.

                    And if you don’t use these services now, you will not need E-ID then. (Except 18+ streaming)

                    And if e-ID is declined by the people of Switzerland, you will have to upload ID for 18+ streaming. This law is already thought and can only be stopped with a new initiative.

        • harfang@slrpnk.netOP
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          7 hours ago

          As you mentioned. There’s a new law coming without referendum. Today you’ll need it to guy alcohol. Tomorrow streaming After tomorrow access to public transport

          The open web forum in my picture exists. You can have a look. They dictate the rules. Its public information :)