Of course, it’s everyone’s own decision what they do with their free time and it is not my place to judge anyone, but you could at least give a good idea a chance, right?
Of course, it’s everyone’s own decision what they do with their free time and it is not my place to judge anyone, but you could at least give a good idea a chance, right?
Yes I used email as a proxy, and as so many others pointed out here already (and which I agree), the Fediverse is nowhere close to being as simple as e.g. Reddit to use.
I really like your earlier idea to just recommend like 3 instances, then link to a longer-form post listing out all the various factors such as “is the instance based in the USA”, “are conservatives going to feel welcomed there” (no), “what about the tankie issue”, etc.
But THEN, if after all that, they either choose not to read any of it, or do and then leave, I wouldn’t worry about it - bc you did your due diligence, so what more could you possibly do? And if you think of something, then yeah do that, but beyond that, it really is up to them to be willing to try new things.
The posts promoting Lemmy/Piefed only stay on /r/RedditAlternatives for so long. If at some point in time someone is looking for an alternative, goes to the sub, and sees nothing except 1-person project that will shut down in a month, then they can’t find us, and we can’t fault them for that.
That’s why I suggested to combine communities together. Although PieFed already does that. Movies & TV seems quite active, and offers the best of both worlds not having to search for communities and also if someone is interested in seeing still more of a certain type of post then they can subscribe to the actual community - rather than the Feed - and see those in their Subscribed section.
No we wouldn’t fault them for leaving for that reason, but seeing how empty Lemmy can be (a fault that PieFed does not really suffer from, at least nowhere nearly to the same degree) is a different reason altogether than “it’s too complicated”.
The issue wasn’t new joiners finding the place empty, the issue is them not even having a look at it’s too complicated.
Yes Lemmy is quite complicated. PieFed is not however - again, at least not to the same degree. I don’t know what instance would be best to recommend to people on Reddit (strongly preferably one that has defederated from Hexbear!), though pointing them directly to the page revealing Movies & TV might be a fantastic start? Or here is Cats on PieFed.zip? They don’t need to learn everything - like defederation drama - on day one, just feel welcomed as they take their first step.
Then once they are invested, they hopefully won’t want to leave. But if they do… that’s their choice?
I don’t know who made that feed but it’s lacking both [email protected] and [email protected] lol.
That’s quite something
It’s probably an old feed made before we moved
Let the team at piefed.social know so they can add them? Communities were in enormous flux there for awhile but perhaps things are a tad bit more stable now?
It’s a user-feed, not a topic. Topics are official piefed.social feeds. The official Tv/movie feed on Piefed.social is here.
Fwiw, if it helps to know, I clicked “Explore” in the web browser (this works in both Firefox and Chrome, although ofc it would bc it’s just a URL issue!:-P) and then clicked Movies & TV, and that link is what it points to right now.
Oh I see now… on a mobile device I did not scroll down, but the Explore menu has both Feeds, up top where people using a mobile web-browser would see those first, and then Topics down below. Anyway that Feed is what most people will most readily find when looking for that content, so it may be good to try to get those communities added, by contacting whoever owns it, or making a new one and replacing that menu choice with yours, or some such?
Skavau is moderator there: https://piefed.social/about
And mods can change that? Well if so then that’s great!:-) My knowledge continually falls behind on how PieFed works (at some point it was a file in the sourcecode so only an admin could), but quite frankly that’s great too because it reflects how extremely quickly that code continues to be updated! :-D
https://piefed.zip/
What they do once they’re here is a completely different topic. If the comparison in this meme helps, let’s use it, and let’s not disregard users who don’t get the email comparison, like you did in your first comment.
I would not recommend that one to people on Reddit - I can see that it does not defederate from either hexbear.net or lemmygrad.ml as piefed.social does, see e.g. https://piefed.zip/c/[email protected] and https://piefed.zip/c/[email protected].
Let’s see… piefed.world seems to have defederated from both of them: https://piefed.world/c/[email protected] does exist but it looks to have been imported once rather than something that is connected continually.
https://piefed.ca/ also has no content or communities from either of them so it too looks to have been defederated, and if you are looking to avoid the lemmy.world mods then that could be a great option, for people currently using Reddit who primarily tend to be from the USA?
Or https://feddit.online/ for anyone located in Europe. All of those are great options and I would suggest to recommend them over piefed.zip.
Of course everything is so new so we don’t know so much about how well-maintained those servers are - feddit.online has a lower uptime below 95% but the others are all >99.5% so seem great so far?
Feddit.online is hosted in the US.
Piefed.zip pros (transparency with regular reports, reactive admins) outshine the cons for me. With how Piefed allows user-level instance blocking, not having hb and grad defederated is acceptable.
PieFed.ca is Canada oriented.
Piefed.ca shows All posts by default, to anyone including guests without an account, whereas Lemmy.ca’s default was to show only Local - the latter was a huge blocker, so that having changed now on their piefed instance makes all the difference?
I could see promoting lemmy.zip with a warning, similar to how you sometimes used to do with lemm.ee iirc, citing how it did not make moderation choices for the user unlike Reddit. But for a mainstream normie I would avoid it, or again at least put in a word of caution to explain.