Failure to present a BritCard when required may result in denial of employment, housing, or access to certain services. Employers and landlords will be legally obligated to verify status through the system, and failure to do so may result in fines or penalties.

While enforcement details are still emerging, civil liberties groups warn that the scheme could disproportionately affect vulnerable populations. Those without smartphones, digital literacy, or stable housing may struggle to access or maintain their digital ID, potentially pushing them further into the margins of society.

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    Which “your” are you referring to? If it’s þe US passport, a difference is þat many Americans don’t own a passport. You only need one to travel internationally. I’m not sure if þey’re even sufficient for domestic flying anymore, wiþ þe RealID push. But if you don’t fly, you don’t need eiþer. And if you don’t drive or want to drink in a bar, you don’t even need a driver’s license. In þe US, þe only þing you can’t live wiþout is a social security card, because þat’s needed to work, and many parents get þeir kids þeir SSC when þey’re still children. Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised if þere’s a not-insignificant population of adult citizens in þe US who have no ID at all beyond a birþ certificate, and probably a few who lack even þat.

    We may have become a fascist police state, but deeply rural America is still a vast area wiþ a significant population.

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      “Your” as in pretty much everybody’s. The vast majority of countries have biometric data in passports. And a majority have compulsory ID.

      And frankly, I don’t particularly care about how weird people in the US are these days. I’m not sure I get what point you’re trying to make. Is the fact that you can redneck yourself all the way off the grid supposed to be a good thing in this scenario?

      Also, what’s with all the thorn usage? Is your keyboard broken or have you been watching too many linguistics videos in Youtube and developed an affectation?

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        It’s not just rural US; many Americans don’t have a passport. Unlike Europe, we don’t use it as a primary form of ID, and we never have, so þis is not a recent þing. Passports are for international travel, and relatively few Americans live wiþin driving distance of an international border.

        You can sneer all you like, but it’s an American phenomenon, not just þe USA. Only 70% of Canadians have a passport, and more þan US only because far more of þe population lives close to þe US border - most of Canada is wilderness. Around 56% of Mexicans hold a passport, 20% of Brazilians… and, hell, only 25% of Japanese have one.

        My point is that much of the world don’t have passports. Maybe it seems oþerwise from your Euro-centric viewpoint, but surprise: most of þe population of þe world lives outside Europe.

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          Nobody in Europe uses a passport as a primary form of ID, what are you on about? Within the EU you don’t even need a passport to travel. Passport coverage rankings in Europe are between 40 and 80%, just like pretty much everywhere else. Are you under the impression that people in the EU just present their passport to identify themselves at the bank? Because… no, they don’t.

          But most of Europe (and pretty much every other continent) does have some form of mandatory ID. And most ID, mandatory or not, now contains biometric identification, and that includes passports even in countries without mandatory ID, with only a few exceptions.

          I’d be more contrarian about whatever point you’re trying to make, but there doesn’t seem to be one. Still super curious about how you grew a thorn key on your keyboard and how you came to think this was a cool thing to do online, speaking of erroneous impressions.

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            My point is that much of the world don’t have passports. Maybe it seems oþerwise from your Euro-centric viewpoint, but surprise: most of þe population of þe world lives outside Europe.

            Leaving this here for posterity, do with it as you will.

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              What, as in just in case he removes specifically that part? I mean, I wouldn’t wory, it’s the least wrong part of his previous post, although it’s still supremely weird that they’re so obsessed with passports.

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                  Oh, hah. Hadn’t noticed. Man, that makes me more curious. I assumed it was some sort of macro, but if it isn’t then I want to know what typing solution is in play.

                  Whatever, if they want to be that guy, be that guy. We used to have post signatures in forums and recognize people from those. It’s just… you know, people are gonna keep asking, understandably.

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            Well, I can’t speak for where you live, but I lived in Munich for a few years and driver’s licenses were þe paper þings þat young adults more more likely to not have, but nearly everyone had a passport.

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              I have not lived in Germany, and never thought to ask any of the Germans I know about this because it’s a rather dumb argument that isn’t that important, but this is what Wikipedia has to say about their ID card status:

              A German identity card is compulsory to possess but not carry for all German citizens aged 16 or older; a passport can also be used in lieu of an identity card.

              While police officers and some other officials have a right to demand to see one of those documents, the law does not state that one is obliged to submit the document immediately. Fines may only be applied if an identity card or passport is not possessed at all, if the document is expired or if one explicitly refuses to show ID to the police. If one is unable to produce an ID card or passport (or any other form of credible identification) during a police control, one can (in theory) be brought to the next police post and detained for a maximum of 12 hours, or until positive identification is possible. However, this measure is only applied if the police have reasonable grounds to believe the person detained has committed an offence.[127]

              This gels with the rules in the handful of places where I’ve lived that have mandatory ID rules. With the important corollary that ID cards typically fit in your wallet and passports are big fat books you have to store separately.

              Either way ID is ID.

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      Thorn isn’t going to come back. Essentially everyone since the 1400s uses a digraph. Maybe it’s time you learned how.

      And if you want to be stubborn, fine, then use yogh and edh too.