But in their infinite wisdom, they decided former presidents and presidential candidates were a sacred cow and we cannot hold someone accountable for their crimes of they might become president, we must put them in a position to ruin everything
But in their infinite wisdom, they decided former presidents and presidential candidates were a sacred cow and we cannot hold someone accountable for their crimes of they might become president, we must put them in a position to ruin everything
This is the point I keep reminding myself of. We had four years to do anything at all. We all knew version 2.0 would be back like deja vu but worse, and we (as a country) just let it.
Propaganda, election interference, election fraud, hostile nation interference, etc. it wasn’t just the voters, and it’s reasonable, given the evidence of corruption and election interference, to believe that they did get away with cheating the system this time. Not that we can do anything about it.
We fucking tried telling everyone Biden wasn’t good enough, no neoliberal is good enough to have a D by their name.
Theyre conservatives who oppose change, but without all the stupid racist shit conservative voters want.
So don’t blame it on us “as a country” blame it on the the people that kept shoving neo liberals down our throats as the only other option.
It’s not some impossible task, the freaking DNC already kicked neo liberals to the curb, Schumer and Jeffries are coasting off their votes happening before the DNC vote, if it was the other way around wed have real leadership in the Senate/House already
What did you do that for!? I would have liked him better than Trump! It’s your fault we didn’t get him!
You realize Biden was president for four years and failed to hold trump accountable which is why Trump was able to run a second time …
Right?
Blaming other people doesn’t make your guilt go away. What I’m hearing is that you and Biden both helped Trump win. Why would you work alongside Biden to set up a fascist regime? That’s horrible!
It was the voters. They chose this.
They continue to choose it every day they sit at home watching it happen and doing fuck all.
No, they didn’t? Like only 1/3 of the states actually “matter” during an election because of the electoral college, and they are all gerrymandered to shit thanks to Republican redistricting efforts and suppressed via ID laws going all the way back to Reagan, if not earlier.
Voters are a convenient scapegoat, but remember, Clinton won the popular vote in 2016. There shouldn’t even have been a first Trump term in an actual representative democracy, and opposition Dems barely moved the needle to safeguard any future elections from another term of this shit.
Ladies please, you’re both right. The Rs get to pick who votes and the voters pick the president. Either one could have avoided this. This happened because you both fucked up.
He got even the popular vote.
…uh ok. Voters fell for obvious lies in droves.
You conveniently ignored my other point regarding how much of the electorate actually counts, but sure.
He got the popular vote in 2024. Not against Hillary in 2017. That’s my whole point, this whole situation would not even be happening if the presidential election system in the US wasn’t such a mess.
And my whole point is that if people weren’t stupid as fucking bricks, trump never would’ve gotten 15% of the popular vote either time. Republicans are always going to be straight evil and that’s become more obvious every day, not less. Yet by voters’ actions you’d think that were a secret.
I wish we could have had Biden for a second term instead of this bullshit.
Harris probably would have been amazing but people sat around and let Trump in and that’s a failure on the country and its voters.
I still stand by my comment. Four years later, and we are still sitting in the bullshit for round two. We, as a country, failed the task at hand.
You had a bad option and a Nazi option. There wasn’t a third. Who are we blaming?
The person in between the Nazi’s terms who didn’t fucking do anything to prevent the second …
How the fuck did you have to ask that?
And why can’t you realize if you can miss as obvious shit as this, you’re probably missing more you haven’t realized yet?
The bad option who chose to let the Nazi get elected? I voted for the bad option but that doesn’t make them guilt free. They had so many options and we’ve had decades of lead up. They know that they can’t win every election by just being Democrats lol. And yet…they lost to one of the least popular presidents we’ve ever had