But in their infinite wisdom, they decided former presidents and presidential candidates were a sacred cow and we cannot hold someone accountable for their crimes of they might become president, we must put them in a position to ruin everything
And a functional taxing system. And functional market rules.
That’s only partly true. Even if Trump had been locked up, and the courts hadn’t said he can do whatever he wants, there could still be someone almost the same as him doing a ton of bad stuff right now.
Of course it is a disaster when the judicial branch fails, but we need to keep that in context of the complete lack of limits on campaign financing, of money coming from corporations and billionaires getting into politics, and how that guarantees the system will be corrupt in short order. In other words, Citizens United was one of the big steps towards the present disaster in the US. You simply cannot have a stable government when the ultra-rich have all of the power. And that, pushes us back to the destruction of anti-monopoly legislation in the '80s and '90s. Which is to say, the bad shit happening now was predicted by many, involves many aspects of government, and took a long time to unfold.
The fact that the other two branches decide the third branch’s members makes no sense. Congress doesn’t decide the president and the president doesn’t pick senators. So why does the president pick the judges and congress vote on them?
Or a proportional voting system, that doesnt produce a two party situation.
What is a functional justice system? They all generally have little kings at the top. That’s the problem. At the bottom, the US legal system is (well, was) very rigorous.
Yet most American presidents have been bad people.
Canada can still avoid it but your country is just as dumb as us too.
We’re only a step or two behind. Especially with the leader of the Conservative party spewing Nazi rhetoric. He went into the last election looking like he’d win until Trump came along and we decided to dodge that bullet for now. But the guy we did elect is backing down on everything Trump related so I don’t see him winning again.
Or a functional education system.
Yeah no joke, when No Child Left Behind was implemented by Bush 2, I remember both my parents discussing how it’s gonna lead to a dumber society within a decade or two, in a “Our nursing home is gonna be run by morons LOL” kind of way. I was waaaay too young to actually understand what they were talking about, but damn were they right.
None of us are going to be able to afford a nursing home lol
I mean, my parents and their generation can, for the most part. The rest of us… are probably not even making it to retirement lol 🥹
Or a functional journalistic media.
Or an equitable economic system. Poverty and inequality breed desperation and support for extremism, partnered with no functional education system it’s the base for every authoritarian regime, ever.
No economic system is immune to flowing money to the top. We need strong education, “economic morals”, to stay strong. No slogans, no, “My system is better!” Education.
We already have a wealth of history to draw on, see what has worked and what has failed.
What about economic systems that don’t use money? I bet those are immune to money flowing to the top
we were 2 inches away from not having to deal with any of this nonsense.
He was almost assassinated the day before the national convention. I wonder who the candidate would have been
God, we were truly robbed of one of history’s greatest power vacuums. That shit would’ve made the Death of Stalin look like a church picnic. It starts with Vance saying he should be the obvious front-runner because he was totally the pick for VP, you just gotta trust him guys, he doesn’t have anything in writing because it was a secret handshake deal but he was totally gonna be the VP, ask anyone, and it ends with Ron DeSantis burying Mike Pence in cement while Nikki Haley soaks the convention center in gasoline.
And then, the “reward” we would have gotten would have been someone competent in charge of all this horrifying stuff.
You want terror? It would already be packed up by now. The Democrats would be an illegal party, I think, and the paramilitary would already be semi controlling a lot of the streets, instead of doing such a good job at pissing people off and looking like the bad guys as they are doing now. It is still very very dangerous. But we are very lucky that Trump is in charge of it all.
None of that happens without a charismatic cult leader. They cannot replace Trump and I’d image they’re shitting bricks behind the scenes. LOL, can you imagine the backstabbing and power grabs going on as Trump dives further and further into dementia and heart failure?!
I’d laugh, but I’m afraid they have a succession plan, a plan that might work.
Yeah, but so maybe it goes dormant for another 5-10 years and people forget. And then, when middle-aged Stephen Miller comes out like Pink Floyd when he shaved all his hair, all with big plans and fire in his eyes… maybe he’s running against Gavin Newsom who’s kind of a POS anyway and nothing the left can get excited about, maybe he wins, and maybe then he gets to work. And he’s got energy, he’s not old or stupid.
I think it’s better that it’s Trump. It’s still awful, but I really think it’s better this way. I don’t think people will forget this once it passes, or get distracted.
And it all would’ve happened on WWE.
I doubt that. That was all too convenient. Not to be a conspiracy theorist but it was literally perfect in every way. Down to the photo op. I might be 90% wrong but that 10% helps me believe the universe knows what it’s doing.
That 10% is why you believe. A kid had an opportunity, took the shot, failed, end story.
Same for Charlie Kirk. Exact same story.
It’s gotta be nefarious time travelers. I mean, there’s no other logical explanation that we could be in such a shitty timeline.
Maybe America could learn something from more advanced, mature democracies like Brazil and Korea. They apparently know how to deal with traitorous insurrectionist authoritarian trash.
It is functioning as it was intended to function. A thing is what it does
This is the point I keep reminding myself of. We had four years to do anything at all. We all knew version 2.0 would be back like deja vu but worse, and we (as a country) just let it.
Propaganda, election interference, election fraud, hostile nation interference, etc. it wasn’t just the voters, and it’s reasonable, given the evidence of corruption and election interference, to believe that they did get away with cheating the system this time. Not that we can do anything about it.
We fucking tried telling everyone Biden wasn’t good enough, no neoliberal is good enough to have a D by their name.
Theyre conservatives who oppose change, but without all the stupid racist shit conservative voters want.
So don’t blame it on us “as a country” blame it on the the people that kept shoving neo liberals down our throats as the only other option.
It’s not some impossible task, the freaking DNC already kicked neo liberals to the curb, Schumer and Jeffries are coasting off their votes happening before the DNC vote, if it was the other way around wed have real leadership in the Senate/House already
We fucking tried telling everyone Biden wasn’t good enough
What did you do that for!? I would have liked him better than Trump! It’s your fault we didn’t get him!
t’s your fault we didn’t get him!
You realize Biden was president for four years and failed to hold trump accountable which is why Trump was able to run a second time …
Right?
Blaming other people doesn’t make your guilt go away. What I’m hearing is that you and Biden both helped Trump win. Why would you work alongside Biden to set up a fascist regime? That’s horrible!
It was the voters. They chose this.
They continue to choose it every day they sit at home watching it happen and doing fuck all.
No, they didn’t? Like only 1/3 of the states actually “matter” during an election because of the electoral college, and they are all gerrymandered to shit thanks to Republican redistricting efforts and suppressed via ID laws going all the way back to Reagan, if not earlier.
Voters are a convenient scapegoat, but remember, Clinton won the popular vote in 2016. There shouldn’t even have been a first Trump term in an actual representative democracy, and opposition Dems barely moved the needle to safeguard any future elections from another term of this shit.
Ladies please, you’re both right. The Rs get to pick who votes and the voters pick the president. Either one could have avoided this. This happened because you both fucked up.
He got even the popular vote.
Voters are a convenient scapegoat
…uh ok. Voters fell for obvious lies in droves.
You conveniently ignored my other point regarding how much of the electorate actually counts, but sure.
He got the popular vote in 2024. Not against Hillary in 2017. That’s my whole point, this whole situation would not even be happening if the presidential election system in the US wasn’t such a mess.
And my whole point is that if people weren’t stupid as fucking bricks, trump never would’ve gotten 15% of the popular vote either time. Republicans are always going to be straight evil and that’s become more obvious every day, not less. Yet by voters’ actions you’d think that were a secret.
I wish we could have had Biden for a second term instead of this bullshit.
Harris probably would have been amazing but people sat around and let Trump in and that’s a failure on the country and its voters.
I still stand by my comment. Four years later, and we are still sitting in the bullshit for round two. We, as a country, failed the task at hand.
You had a bad option and a Nazi option. There wasn’t a third. Who are we blaming?
The person in between the Nazi’s terms who didn’t fucking do anything to prevent the second …
How the fuck did you have to ask that?
And why can’t you realize if you can miss as obvious shit as this, you’re probably missing more you haven’t realized yet?
The bad option who chose to let the Nazi get elected? I voted for the bad option but that doesn’t make them guilt free. They had so many options and we’ve had decades of lead up. They know that they can’t win every election by just being Democrats lol. And yet…they lost to one of the least popular presidents we’ve ever had
It’s all been down hill since they did Bernie dirty.
It’s all been downhill since Florida rigged the election for Bush in 2000.
I was in high school when it happened. Been in the work force for 6 years now, still fucking pissed
Been paying dividends ever since. Nothing gonna change
The fucked up thing is in 08 Obama could have got a progressive DNC chair…
But he just ignored the DNC out of spite, which is why in 2016 they were broke and took Hillary’s deal for funding in exchange for complete control over the DNC.
Voters did our part and elected Obama, and then he fucked us
If I had a time machine I’d have better things to do than warn George Washington about this.
There’s like a dozen concerts I’d rather go to first.
and the biden administration could’ve decided on a top-down instead of bottom-up approach to prioritizing prosecution. trump v. us meant that trump could no longer be prosecuted for diverting forces away from the capitol but did not end up mattering since the biden approach meant the trials for his capitol crimes were still in progress when he was elected anyways
As soon as the supreme court made that stupid ruling about presidential immunity, Biden could have cleaned house with inpunity.
Look at where we are now.
Assuming you’re referring to Dark Brandon SEAL Team 6-ing everybody and instilling the new Dominion Americana, that would’ve set a bad precedent. But then again he pardoned his son.
And the current president violating the constitution isn’t? I’d say sending the military to cities you don’t like is setting a bad precedent.
But also a good opportunity to remove conservative supreme court justices.
Put in sensible ones, then reverse the ruling of presidential immunity. Carry on with trying to rebuild whats left of this countries rule of law.
Seriously. Go after the people who did crimes, make a big public push to impeach the dirty judges, and make sure to bring grocery prices down instead of pushing up wages. If he’d done that, maybe it would have partly worked, maybe it would have been tough, but I think pretty fantastic odds that however it shook out, Biden would be out there drooling his way through his second term right now, and Fox News would be screaming about what a problem it was every time he tripped going up the stairs, but there are lot of Florida detainees who would still be alive. Kilmar would still be happy with his family, right now.
Killing fascists before they have a chance to rise to power is never a bad precedent.
