I disagree, to me the corr of the mainline games is the Pokedex and region, the actual battles being turn based has always just been a negative to me.
In my opinion saying the turn based battles are critical to being mainline is like saying the saccrin and frankly bad writing is critical, sure it’s always been there but that just makes it a persistent problem not a feature.
I’m kind of confused by that sentiment, because the Pokedex and region are the things that change from game-to-game?
And like, sometimes the writing is bad and saccharine, but not always. It’s subjective, but Gen V is widely considered to have pretty good writing. Gen 1 is pretty understated and well-grounded analog to post-WW2 Japan, with Team Rocket acting as a family-friendly version Yakuza.
I’m also not sure why turn-based games are a negative. Like… From board games like chess, to tabletop games like D&D, to strategy games like Civ, to card games and card videogames like Slay the Spire and Balatro… For me I view turn-based vs real-time as a tool for game designers to wield, not just a strictly positive vs negative thing.
Turn-based has serious positives. It’s less impactful to be interrupted, which is important for handheld games. I find it easier to play when I’m not sober. It’s also easier to play while active - I’ve played through multiple main line games on a treadmill, but even Scarlet and Violet has too much active real-time movement for me to be able to stay coordinated while doing that.
I agree gen V had good writing, it’s a shame they forgot how to do that immediately after (This is part of why I fear them returning to turn based, they have back slid before)
Sure turn based has merits, even if you have to dig to find them, but it’s boring to me.
Board games being turn based are a completely different story, when you play a board game you are playing with a person, you’re talking to them, watching their body language and communicating the whole time.
Turn based in a video game is staring at a screen waiting until you have something to do again. It feels like a relic of a different time, when it wasn’t technically feasible to have live action Pokemon battles like the one in the show.
As for turn based being a tool, if course it is, but the setting and surrounding media and lore keeps claiming Pokemon battles are exciting and fast passed. You know, the opposite of turn based.
I disagree, to me the corr of the mainline games is the Pokedex and region, the actual battles being turn based has always just been a negative to me.
In my opinion saying the turn based battles are critical to being mainline is like saying the saccrin and frankly bad writing is critical, sure it’s always been there but that just makes it a persistent problem not a feature.
I’m kind of confused by that sentiment, because the Pokedex and region are the things that change from game-to-game?
And like, sometimes the writing is bad and saccharine, but not always. It’s subjective, but Gen V is widely considered to have pretty good writing. Gen 1 is pretty understated and well-grounded analog to post-WW2 Japan, with Team Rocket acting as a family-friendly version Yakuza.
I’m also not sure why turn-based games are a negative. Like… From board games like chess, to tabletop games like D&D, to strategy games like Civ, to card games and card videogames like Slay the Spire and Balatro… For me I view turn-based vs real-time as a tool for game designers to wield, not just a strictly positive vs negative thing.
Turn-based has serious positives. It’s less impactful to be interrupted, which is important for handheld games. I find it easier to play when I’m not sober. It’s also easier to play while active - I’ve played through multiple main line games on a treadmill, but even Scarlet and Violet has too much active real-time movement for me to be able to stay coordinated while doing that.
Filling the Pokedex, not the actual contents.
I agree gen V had good writing, it’s a shame they forgot how to do that immediately after (This is part of why I fear them returning to turn based, they have back slid before)
Sure turn based has merits, even if you have to dig to find them, but it’s boring to me.
Board games being turn based are a completely different story, when you play a board game you are playing with a person, you’re talking to them, watching their body language and communicating the whole time.
Turn based in a video game is staring at a screen waiting until you have something to do again. It feels like a relic of a different time, when it wasn’t technically feasible to have live action Pokemon battles like the one in the show.
As for turn based being a tool, if course it is, but the setting and surrounding media and lore keeps claiming Pokemon battles are exciting and fast passed. You know, the opposite of turn based.