• artyom@piefed.social
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    1 day ago

    you can keep all of your other programs, data, and activity off of Microsoft’s ecosystem and Windows

    How do you figure that? You’re just running Windows inside of Linux, along with all it’s cancer.

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      24 hours ago
      • Using Windows Virtual Machine for explicitly few programs (less than 2 ideally)
      • Able to be shut off at any time (or wiped/remade completely)
      • Ran in a VM for complete network security
      • If cracked, software can be ran in the VM completely offline
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        23 hours ago

        Using Windows Virtual Machine for explicitly few programs (less than 2 ideally)

        That goes for normal Windows.

        Able to be shut off at any time (or wiped/remade completely)

        Normal Windows

        Ran in a VM for complete network security

        How does running it in a VM improve network security?

        If cracked, software can be ran in the VM completely offline

        Normal Windows 1 more time.

        All the things you can do in a VM you can do running Windows normally.

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          22 hours ago

          Man, you must be fun at parties.

          • No dual boot needed, can use Linux exclusive programs and have data stored outside of the VM for easy access
          • Able to take advantage of the performance improvements of using Linux as your daily driver compared to Windows (most notably lower memory usage)
          • Not barred by Windows 11’s requirements (largely irrelevant for the software you want to use this with, but it’s a factor)

          Also two things, since I’m confused on if you’re playing coy or are just in a contrarian mood:

          • Yes, all of the functions inside the VM can be achieved with a standard Windows install. However, we are looking at this situation through the lens of a user who wants to use Linux with access to their Windows programs that throw roadblocks (AKA the original commenter of this comment train)

          • Regarding network security, the advantage of not using Windows as your main operating system is that you have a stable, secure baseline, without any fears of unwanted telemetry or addons included in the package (such as copilot). You can debloat windows, but you can never be truly sure that those issues won’t return in the next update or are fully disabled. With a VM that’s not running… well, it’s not running. Not connected to the internet.

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            21 hours ago

            Man you must recycle jokes at parties.

            No dual boot needed, can use Linux exclusive programs and have data stored outside of the VM for easy access

            Yes but if you dual boot there’s no VM needed LOL

            I just can’t possibly comprehend why you would prefer that when dual booting is so much simpler…

            Able to take advantage of the performance improvements of using Linux as your daily driver compared to Windows (most notably lower memory usage)

            So you mean to tell me running Windows inside of Linux uses less RAM than just Windows? How does that work?

            Not barred by Windows 11’s requirements

            I mean you can get around that using Rufus easy enough (I’m told).

            we are looking at this situation through the lens of a user who wants to use Linux with access to their Windows programs

            But why?

            the advantage of not using Windows as your main operating system is that you have a stable, secure baseline, without any fears of unwanted telemetry or addons

            I’m not sure you understand how a VM works. There’s nothing about a VM that removes telemetry or add-ons from Windows…

            And who said anything about a “main operating system”? Linux can still be your “main”.

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              21 hours ago

              Yes but if you dual boot there’s no VM needed LOL

              You want to reboot the entire system when you need to use a Windows only application? Instead of just opening up a VM?

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                20 hours ago

                …after spending 2 weeks trying to figure out how to make it work? Yeah I’ll restart the computer in 2 minutes instead, thank you.

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                  20 hours ago

                  You think making a VM takes two weeks? I’m pretty sure Microsoft provides images you can just pop into virtualbox, but it’s been a while since I used VMs.

                  Also if you need to use the windows software alongside your regular workflow (eg: reading info out of the windows software with your eyes and then typing into your IDE or terminal), rebooting the whole thing is going to suck.

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                    19 hours ago

                    You think making a VM takes two weeks?

                    I dunno, I spent several hours trying before I gave up.

                    eg: reading info out of the windows software with your eyes and then typing into your IDE or terminal

                    I can’t fathom a scenario where I would need to do that.

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      24 hours ago

      You can restrict network access to the VM and still do normal network stuff on the host machine, for one thing.

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          21 hours ago

          …what? How are you going to do any modern day work on the host machine with no Internet access? Are you going to air gap your windows machine?

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              20 hours ago

              Depends on what you need to do. You could mount a folder to get files in or out, for some cases.

              Have you used virtual machines before? Done software development?

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                19 hours ago

                Depends on what you need to do.

                There ya go, answered your own question.

                Have you used virtual machines before?

                Yes.

                Done software development?

                No.