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    People keep saying Krita is a great alternative to GIMP, Photoshop, and Affinity Photo, but photo editing is not its focus at all.

    That’s not exactly true. Yes, the focus shifted to painting a bunch of years ago but Krita still started out as “KImageShop”. There are many image editing features available and unlike Gimp, it A) works across all major PC operating systems equally (and Android), B) uses an up to date toolkit and doesn’t lag behind by years (Gimp only recently adopted GTK3), C) doesn’t user headerbars, and D) isn’t named after “a derrogatory term for someone that is disabled or has a medicial problem that results in physical impairment”.

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      20 hours ago

      Krita may have started out as a photo editor, but that’s clearly not its focus today. If I need to edit a photo, I will use a tool better suited for that task, even if that tool isn’t as pretty as Krita.

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        Krita may have started out as a photo editor, but that’s clearly not its focus today.

        Editing features were not removed, so it’s still a capable image editor, formal focus or not.

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          19 hours ago

          Some photo editing features were either never added, or they feel clunky to use. Either way, the GIMP is better suited even if it’s uglier.

          Krita is a great tool for artists, but I’m not going to force myself to use it instead of the GIMP, and I’m not going to tell others it’s designed for something it’s not. I’ll keep checking in on it, but until it does what I need it to, it’s not going to become my main tool for photo editing.

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            Either way, the GIMP is better suited even if it’s uglier.

            No, not for all use cases outside of painting. I listed a couple, you ignored them. Using GTK on non-Gnome systems is an objectively worse experience other than mere looks. GTK’s brain dead file pickers for example. Absolutely unusable.

            https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion and https://github.com/Acly/krita-vision-tools don’t exist for Gimp either (I know of two that work with cloud services but not local).

            I’m not going to tell others it’s designed for something it’s not.

            “Yes, the focus shifted to painting a bunch of years ago but Krita still started out as “KImageShop”. There are many image editing features available” is an objectively true statement I made. People saying that Krita is not suitable at all for image editing are in the wrong. Krita handles both editing and painting.

            it’s not going to become my main tool for photo editing.

            That’s fine and I moved on from Gimp.

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              17 hours ago

              I didn’t say the GIMP is better for all use cases. I said it’s better for my use case. And it’s really weird for you to get this defensive when both applications are FOSS.

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                And it’s really weird for you to get this defensive when both applications are FOSS.

                I made a factual clarification and you were the one who got weirdly emotional after that.

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                  I think you’ve got that backwards.

                  Not liking the name of the software I use and saying your preferred application is superior is better because it’s prettier are emotional arguments.

                  I stated that Krita doesn’t do what I need it to do at the moment but would consider switching to it if it did.

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                    I think you’ve got that backwards.

                    No, I made the factually true clarification of “Yes, the focus shifted to painting a bunch of years ago but Krita still started out as “KImageShop”. There are many image editing features available”

                    Not liking the name of the software I use and saying your preferred application is superior is better because it’s prettier are emotional arguments.

                    I made a technological argument about GTK the lack of proper cross-platform compatibility and that has absolutely nothing to do with prettiness.

                    That you like software that insults people with disabilities is another matter but you cannot with a straight face claim that I did not make factually true arguments about image editing capabilities, technological downsides of GTK, and later the availability of certain plugins.

                    I stated that Krita doesn’t do what I need it to do at the moment but would consider switching to it if it did.

                    Nope, not in the comment I replied to:

                    And I did not respond to you personal preferences stated in https://lemmy.world/comment/20267684. I made a clarification about the image editing capabilities. I did not quote the rest and I don’t care about your personal preferences but at that point you were seemingly already emotionally riled up, so you did no longer grasp this detail.

                    I made my point about the technological side I wanted to make. You now make it emotional. I’m muting this thread now.