Okay so Lucifer obviously upset his sky-daddy, is demoted from being an angel permanently, is cast down to rule an entire sector of the afterlife called Hell which we come to know where all damned souls go after they die.

What is the logic of God practically awarding Lucifer an entire realm for him to rule on his own and nearly contest God’s power?

That’s like imprisoning someone to home confinement when they live in a mansion.

  • birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    234·
    20 hours ago

    Too cool for God.

    the bible says satan causes illness but then god causes the firstborn to die, causes plagues, and so on.

    the bible says god is good but god is a judgemental ass, who raped a woman and impregnated her, and who forces suffering onto people. while satan welcomes all who come to his realm, to better themselves.

    satan’s the real protagonist, not god. and the bible is so self contradictory that science alone holds the answers.

    edit: likewise, if you look at greek mythology, Hades is actually pretty chill compared to the rest. He still abducts Persephone to make her his wife, but he treats her decently and lets her visit family and friends. Can’t say that about Zeus, who gets angry randomly and fucks anything, regardless of whether it’s moving

    • marighost@piefed.socialEnglish
      5·
      18 hours ago

      I prefer some of the Gnostic interpretations of Lucifer, or Satan, where he attempts to introduce knowledge (gnosis) to Adam and Eve by way of the forbidden Fruit of Knowledge in an effort to ‘awaken’ them. Meanwhile, God the evil Demiurge does not want Adam and Eve to truly know what lies beyond Him, forcing Satan out.

    • Nyxias@fedia.ioOP
      53·
      21 hours ago

      God is the real evil! Satan doesn’t rule hell, God does. Even more contradictions!

      “Spread love and love thy neighbor…NOW BURN IN HELL!!”

      • TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world
        5·
        19 hours ago

        Logically, it would make sense for the evil entity to try to manipulate people into believing they are the good one and the good one is the bad one

    • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
      23·
      18 hours ago

      Yeah, why does God have to be judgemental, mannn… It’s not like people do horrific things like enslaving (what God punished the egyptians for after literally 9 warnings) genocide, rape(a sin of Sodom and Gomorrah) cause illness or hoard money. /s

      Also, Mary did literally consent and then praised God.

      Luke 1:35, 38

      And the angel answered her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy—the Son of God.

      And Mary said, “Behold, I am the servant of the Lord; let it be to me according to your word.” And the angel departed from her.

      Luke 1:46-49

      And Mary said, “My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has looked on the humble estate of his servant. For behold, from now on all generations will call me blessed; for he who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name.

      Also

      while satan welcomes all who come to his realm, to better themselves. Are you literally getting your theology from Hazbib Hotel? Satan hates you. He despises you more than any human has hated anybody. He is a resentful prick who wants to drag you down with him because his shitty coup failed. Satan doesn’t rule hell. He’s suffering there and jealous that he wants to deprive mankind of heaven.

      • potoooooooo ☑️@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        16 hours ago

        Didn’t god create rape, genocide, disease, etc… by definition? Or he can’t do anything about that?

        Also I’m not sure if a teenage girl can consent when it’s the god of the universe. Pretty wild power dynamics there.

        • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
          1·
          15 hours ago

          The “teenage” part isn’t biblical either. And she clearly did. God wouldn’t have chosen someone who was unwilling.

          God will destroy these evils - but you call that “judgy”

          The folly of trying to have your cake and eat it