I know. People are afraid to make them out of fear of defederation.
So there’s clearly not enough of a local audience for it. I know many instances have specific political bias that preclude certain arguments fron being advanced to varying degrees (such as lemmy.ml, slrpnk.net, lemmy.dbzer0 etc) but there are also many general use instances amongst them, that are not defederated that really only ban people for hurling slurs and being abusive.
The modlogs should give some insight into how much demand there is for instances that won’t censor people.
Well, maybe, but given how a massive chunk of the modlog that you refer to here are just people having their posts removed for hurling abuse, making threats etc. How do you think those types, blacklisted from the ‘censored’ fediverse clustering all together on a single ‘free speech’ instance would go?
The fediverse as a whole is still tiny, so it may seem that getting defederated from the established instances is a death knell, but it isn’t.
If there’s enough people who want ‘free speech’ instances, they can easily organise if the numbers are supposedly there.
I can’t fathom why its so important for some to be able to freely hurl abuse on online platforms.
That really seems to be all its about here.
Moreover, I’d also suggest that the reason a lemmy instance of this nature does not exist is because there’s no need for it for them. There are already sites that allow them to do this. Why would people of this nature be drawn to the style of Lemmy or Piefed? The entire structure of the Reddit-clone is built around curation and filtering.
I know. People are afraid to make them out of fear of defederation.
Eventually, we’re going to have to accept that there will be different parts of the fediverse for different people. And that’s okay.
So there’s clearly not enough of a local audience for it. I know many instances have specific political bias that preclude certain arguments fron being advanced to varying degrees (such as lemmy.ml, slrpnk.net, lemmy.dbzer0 etc) but there are also many general use instances amongst them, that are not defederated that really only ban people for hurling slurs and being abusive.
The modlogs should give some insight into how much demand there is for instances that won’t censor people.
The fediverse as a whole is still tiny, so it may seem that getting defederated from the established instances is a death knell, but it isn’t.
Well, maybe, but given how a massive chunk of the modlog that you refer to here are just people having their posts removed for hurling abuse, making threats etc. How do you think those types, blacklisted from the ‘censored’ fediverse clustering all together on a single ‘free speech’ instance would go?
If there’s enough people who want ‘free speech’ instances, they can easily organise if the numbers are supposedly there.
They would probably not be acceptable by people who approve of the current state of lemmy moderation, and that’s okay.
I just see it being a repetitive, boring troll infested collection of communities
It’s fine for you to think that.
It looks like you’re happy with how things are going, so it’s not really a concern for you.
I can’t fathom why its so important for some to be able to freely hurl abuse on online platforms.
That really seems to be all its about here.
Moreover, I’d also suggest that the reason a lemmy instance of this nature does not exist is because there’s no need for it for them. There are already sites that allow them to do this. Why would people of this nature be drawn to the style of Lemmy or Piefed? The entire structure of the Reddit-clone is built around curation and filtering.
That’s fine.
It’s clear that you don’t want such instances to exist, so you’re trying to convince others not to want them as well.
You can just go on about your business and if those instances ever pop up, you can just ignore them.