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cyrano@piefed.social to Privacy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 day ago

Flock Cameras are PUBLIC DOMAIN in Washington state. You can file a FOIA for your Flock data. Now police say that citizens getting public docs are now a "privacy concern".

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Flock Cameras are PUBLIC DOMAIN in Washington state. You can file a FOIA for your Flock data. Now police say that citizens getting public docs are now a "privacy concern".

www.kgw.com

cyrano@piefed.social to Privacy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 day ago
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Judge orders police to release surveillance camera data, raising privacy questions | kgw.com
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cross-posted from: https://reddthat.com/post/53812773

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  • merc@sh.itjust.works
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    Not “Public Domain”. That has a specific meaning in copyright law. It’s about creative works that are owned by the public and not subject to copyright.

    What the judge decided is that their outputs are Public Records: “qualified as public records subject to the state’s Public Records Act”.

  • GreatWhiteBuffalo41@slrpnk.net
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    As a polite reminder there’s a map of these cameras and if you see a camera not on the map, you can add it.

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      Its an app called deflock and its on github. There’s also a group called deflock to further expose them. They’ve called them domestic terrorist.

      • EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        OF COURSE they called them domestic terrorists. That’s what all authoritarian regimes call groups that are a threat to them. 🙄

      • EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        deleted by creator

      • GreatWhiteBuffalo41@slrpnk.net
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        Ah, their website says the app is coming soon. Didn’t even think to check GitHub. Thanks!

    • RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works
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      Nothing in my area it seems, phew!

      • GreatWhiteBuffalo41@slrpnk.net
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        Yeah that’s what I thought too, I added 4. Ugh. Keep your eyes open!

        • Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          What do they look like?

          • modus@lemmy.world
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            deflock.me has photos.

    • cyrano@piefed.socialOP
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      Link doesn’t work for me

      • GreatWhiteBuffalo41@slrpnk.net
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        Deflock.me you might have to copy/paste. But if you clicked it right after I posted it, I I had an extra letter in there, it’s fixed.

        • cyrano@piefed.socialOP
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          Thx

          • GreatWhiteBuffalo41@slrpnk.net
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            You’re welcome! Fat fingered it lmao

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    Flock cameras should be illegal, and it would be better if they were all destroyed.

    They do so much damage to privacy. There’s no way these things should exist.

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      Okay but hear me out, how would we craft a world that combined all of the dystopias science fiction warned us against if we left out mass surveillance?

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        You just gotta get creative. What if we had a lotto system, where every day one person gets a million bucks, and fifty people get to do forced labor for the rest of their life? We wouldn’t need surveillance, we’d just have to tell them we’re watching and let the RNG do all the work instead.

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          Delete your comment before they actually consider doing this

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          Uh oh I think you’ve gone and added a new dystopia that we’ll need to incorporate:( I’d read it though, solid premise

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          And by RNG, we mean ol’ Larry. Don’t worry citizen, it’s purely coincidence that all of the winners are friends of his, and 90% of the laborers have brown skin.

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      Can you ask for the Police chief data?

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    The ruling came after the cities of Sedro Woolley and Stanwood sued Jose Rodriguez in civil court to block his records requests. Both cities have since turned off their Flock camera systems.

    Great outcome

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    lol, stick a couple in a police union hall and see how fast the privacy walls go up.

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      Put a license plate reader indoors?

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    Maybe it’s the cameras themselves that are the privacy concern, hmm?

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      No, it’s fine if the state has access to that data, it’s not a privacy concern. It’s only if citizens can see it. /s

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      Throw the cameras in jail!

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        Why not deport them?

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    I may have misread but it seems the article says the records are qualify as public records and so can be requested by anyone.

    That’s not the same thing as public domain, unless I’m mistaken.

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      Yes, it’s different.

      Public records can be public domain. Public domain works can be requested with a public record request. Not all public record requests will result in public domain licensed documents being released.

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    Hell yeah Washington State. Let’s hope that Cascades through the rest of the pnw

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      Haha Cascades

      • mbp@lemmy.sdf.org
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        Pun intended

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    Why is the community that is posted in someone’s home address?

    • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Read the sidebar for the community. The person started it because they had multiple break-ins at that address. The person was an outspoken police critic, so the cops refused to do anything about it. They started the community to document all of it, and it eventually became a place for them to document more generalized police abuses and authoritarianism.

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    I couldn’t reach the article so I found another one from the Everett Herald https://www.heraldnet.com/news/judge-denies-request-to-exempt-flock-footage-from-public-records-act/

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    I do like like them, these anti privacy pieces of shit.

    I do not like these flock cameras. I do not like them one bit.

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      “Would you like them in a store?
      Would you let us build some more?”

      “I would not like them in a store.
      I will not let you build some more.
      I don’t want you to track my van.
      I do not like them, Sam-Alt-man!”

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