Saw someone promoting Lemmy Federate again, something they said in their promotion made me wonder:

What happens if a user is the first to follow a community, so their instance’s bot unsubscribes, and then the user unsubscribes?

I guess I am just used to seeing very negative interactions online, especially from two opposing positions, and like to make it extra super clear I’m not trying to be an asshole to you or shit on you, given just how many times I’ve seen “I disagree” expressed alongside insults, or at least an aggressive tone even if there’s no explicit name calling. Call it the pendulum swinging too hard the other way as backlash from it, and a product of me desperately trying to ensure I’m not being misunderstood (it happens!). Thaanks for the details!

I feel like you also have a bit of an advantage because people who don’t really care about lemmy might not care about an address like lemmy.zip, but crazypeople.online gets attention, as would ani.social from anime enjoyers like myself.

Thanks for your work on ani.social :) and probably the rest of the Fediverse, I think I have seen you on my many, many Elevator7009 alts including the dead Kbin ones.

Good to see crazypeople.online still having steady growth.

These benefits are honestly things that do not enhance my personal experience, but I hope others find them useful. I’m probably forever going to be the “not for me but the community has outvoted me so I guess I can let it exist without complaint for the common good even if I personally don’t like it” guy. Thank you for your explanation. You might want to put these benefits somewhere on the Lemmy Federate project sites so people can learn about them.

for almost every community

Do you have to sign a community up to have it put on Lemmy Federate, or is everyone’s community glommed up regardless of whether it was signed up for it? How does this work? I want to know how it works, all the things an admin needs to know, or maybe a mod, not just a list of benefits.

Again, thank you for engaging with me, I realize my questions and bias against it are probably seeping through and making me appear more hostile to you than I am. I don’t really like the tool but I notice a lot of others do and you did put it forward and, I think, create it with good intentions for the Fediverse, and I (have not contributed any code to the Fediverse’s wellbeing) thank you for that.

Thanks for bringing this up, I wouldn’t have thought of that one myself at all!

Since you are the creator, could you point me to learn how it works besides “now every post from communities signed up will show up on your instance?”

I’ll also admit part of my prejudice is because I’ll never touch All with a ten foot stick, so I end up not experiencing any benefit personally, and I do not mind checking out communities on their instance if they seem to have no posts on mine.

Thanks for replying civilly by the way, and not just flipping out on me for my position on lemmy-federate. I am not sure I’d have the same grace in your position, which is why I’m incredibly careful about putting things I make out there online in public lol.

Yeah, I was holding off because I’m still compiling the list lol, that is why I only ever popped it in that comment and not in a new thread yet. Want to find gaming genre communities that aren’t just my personal Subscribed list to add, that feels selfish otherwise

There are some people I have noticed just screaming into the void and I somehow stumbled on their community by chance. If I have any interest I follow and try to post too, and even if I don’t have interest I at least toss them a quick “I see you, community building is hard, good luck!” message. I cannot lift up every community by myself, but I can at least try to help a bit with anything I fall into that I have at least a mild interest in.

Somehow [email protected] has also absorbed puzzle games there. Not where I’d think to look but okay.

If you made a puzzle game community I’d totally follow and post whenever I see one.

Sadly I do not really engage with video essays because… ugh, video, I’d rather read an article. Shame, because I wish I could say “I’ll engage with this high quality content!” but truth is I have some I reject on personal tastes too. But I promise there are people who will, even if it is only a few. Speaking as someone trucking on with some communities of like… one other person, and I am lucky to have even gotten them because I was screaming at the void for awhile now.

lol I have been trying to compile a list of all active video game genre communities to release here at some point, thanks for helping me with some I did not know of, here’s what I had so far

• [email protected] (also has puzzle and interactive fiction)
• [email protected] (replaces dead feddit.de community)
• [email protected]
• [email protected] (replaces dead feddit.de community)
• [email protected]
• [email protected] (for quick once-a-day web games like Wordle)
• [email protected]
• [email protected] and [email protected]
• [email protected]
• [email protected]
• [email protected]
• [email protected]
• [email protected]
• [email protected]
• [email protected]

I do not play that much gacha and only hear stuff, so thanks for telling me that that is actually normal and not revolutionary—the way I hear it told is you have to have that five star SSR unit to clear some gameplay content or whatever.

I know myself. I’m very good at getting my time sucked from me, but my actual money? I’m extremely stingy with that when it comes to media given my very picky tastes (I’ll express interest in lots but in the end I only bother to actually pop for a few things) and the huge amount of media out there, even moreso when it involves paying for MTX. I think I’ve spent maybe $20.00 over 15 years on any game with MTX total. Paying for microtransactions, especially in-game currency that gets used to roll the virtual dice (instead of to make a 100% guaranteed purchase of something), makes me feel filthy in a way buying a whole new game or buying a guaranteed thing does not, especially because I learned about the gambling thing at a very young age. (I did spend $5.00 on in-game currency once, do not regret it but will never do it again.) And because I had the privilege of education about tactics used both in lootboxes and regular gambling at a young age, I always looked down on it before I ever tried it. I never will try real gambling, although I did eventually try games with lootbox mechanics. I still have my distaste for that monetization model, I’ll generally avoid most games with it, but because those two deliver me specific things I want in a way where I do not feel any pressure to spend money, I continue to play. Thank you for your concern, though. I understand being opposed to that monetization model. It’s not where I draw my line in the sand but I do understand others drawing it there.

I also played a ton of F2P with premium currency as a little kid just because they hadn’t all implemented a way to defeat just shifting forward timers. I did have to put in extra effort but in return I earned premium currency or progressed through the game faster than I was “supposed to” without paying real money to get that faster advancement. So that probably informs my willingness to go near the gross transactions with video games but not in real life gambling.

Nah, this is cool information to know. I might be East Asian but I have never been hit by discrimination in my life and, naturally, as a US citizen who does not really travel, I have a very US-centric view and do not always know how race/ethnic relations go down in other countries. Thanks for the lesson!

oh god when was this posted and when did this drama fire happen ;-; with no context that sounds so much more like ragebait aimed to get women with traumatic experiences to say “bear”, then pissing off non-rapist men who do not want to be feared as much as a dangerous wild animal that guns often do not put down quickly, than a legit question

Hey, thanks for the explanation! The primary idea I had going on was mostly about people mistaking it for a titillation game aimed at men because that is the one someone explained in the comments there, anyways. The women idea is something I actually just thought of typing up this post, lol. I did say I got a progressive vibe from the Fediverse, not a sexist one.

For what it is worth it is indeed gacha, but none of that is required for meaningful progression in-game. From what I have heard of other gacha games you have to have some rare units or whatever from the gacha to pass some actual game content. I can do all story and gameplay stuff F2P. I think most Style Challenges can be beaten more easily with gacha but were all able to be beaten F2P, and all Style Challenges gating story content can be beaten F2P. As far as gacha goes it’s pretty good. If they start locking actual gameplay, and not just rewards, behind gacha then I’ll get pissed and leave. I play because high-quality game aimed at women, which is really rare. I usually also avoid gacha games and also dislike microtransactions.

Glomming onto this comment to say as an American person I have never heard of BAME. I’ve heard of BIPOC, which I always thought was “black and indigenous people of color,” just black and indigenous folks and not the rest of us, but I could be wrong. I have also heard of POC, “people of color,” for anyone nonwhite. Speaking as an Asian woman.

check my edit lol

I am not going there specifically because most women-only communities I have been in have complaining about sexist men and the patriarchy, and this one will allow it. I come to internet communities to have fun, not to doom about other people facing oppression and how some day my bubble will pop and I’ll face it too (yay for being a counter example to “every woman has a [sexual assault] story” because I do not and god I hope it stays that way). I understand the value of a support community, I have just repeatedly found that most support communities end up being unhealthy places for me specifically.

Especially because they almost always “punch up” at the majority, and I understand why it happens but holy hell do I really not want to see it, makes me all kinds of uncomfortable and angry even though I am usually part of the minority demographic punching and not the majority getting punched at. My energy is far better used fighting for minority rights in real life than getting pissed at them online (and tbh I’ll probably never stop getting mad when I see that kind of language, yes I know their explanations and justifications for it which is why I stay out of their communities so I don’t see the upsetting talk instead of lecturing them on why they should not vent frustrations in a safe space for them cordoned off from the general public, where venting that does not make “obviously this is venting” and “this doesn’t apply to everyone in the majority ever” disclaimers can be expected).

I wish them luck, and in their first days I did send a list of communities other women might like.

Just want to clarify it could be both reasons or just one of them. I do get a nice progressive vibe from the Fediverse, not a sexist one. People were good and nice about the WomensStuff community. I am hardly the person to turn to sexism as my first explanation for things—in other words I’m no stereotypical angry feminist and my hair has never been dyed, thank you very much. But individual assholes who break that norm do exist, hence me still wanting to be cautious about sexist behavior in my OP

In general, yes.

I went and made [email protected] instead of glomming into the existing visual novel communities half because someone else had started an otome community that died, so I felt okay making one (and then another when the instance died).

And half because 1) most of general gaming communities does not care about anime romance visual novels aimed at women and I did not really want to see a bunch of name-calling towards us, and 2) although the only currently-active visual novels community would be fine to post to, when I started there were more and the audience was very much dudes who like women. Although there is an overlap between people who play games aimed at horny straight men and people who play otome games (I know some!), it’s much smaller, and most otome players I know are women who do not wanna see VNs where we’re highly sexualized. I can understand the same for men not wanting to see VNs full of our romantic fantasies (although the dudes in ours are less-often sexualized). I am cool with games aimed at horny men existing, but that does not mean I want to step into a space posting them all the time, the same way I am happy to let other people eat lemons but I’m not putting one in my mouth.

The current [email protected] probably would not reject otome posts, but what it used to be probably would, and the old VN communities probably would too; and most though not all otome players would reject the greater surrounding VN community of the past (what it currently is on ani.social would probably be accepted) because of how often what was posted there would turn out to be galge and not more gender-neutral stuff anyone could like like Ace Attorney.

Finally, the way [email protected] and [email protected] reacted to a post for a game aimed at women, [email protected], with tons of downvotes, was either not very encouraging for anime content that was still gaming content getting put in general communities (especially because one commenter explained they mistook it for a game meant to titillate because the icon was an anime girl even though part of why I really like Infinity Nikki is because it is a nice open-world game where women aren’t sexualized, but I can still have nice hair physics and clothing physics), or for content aimed at women getting received well in general spaces.

We’re small but I’d rather have this than nothing, or posting in big communities and getting constantly questioned about why I play a game where you can date fictional men instead of putting myself on the market in real life (lots of otome gamers are in happy, healthy relationships in real life! Or are not interested in relationships but still find fictional romance fun, or have trauma and are in a stage in their recovery where fictional romance is okay but looking for dates in real life isn’t. In my circumstances, a relationship would be nice but I know I could be happy without one too, and sticking my neck out on some dating app or going to a bar would inevitably get me horrid behavior I have never faced in real life yet. So I’ll keep living my daily life, which involves interacting with other humans, sometimes men, but not disrupting it by going to a bar as a non-drinker and non-dancer or downloading a dating app).