Just sharing info: lumped them altogether does not work in international manner. BAME as a term is UK-centric and only works in UK social situation.
Except if you want UK-related communities for the community.
Glomming onto this comment to say as an American person I have never heard of BAME. I’ve heard of BIPOC, which I always thought was “black and indigenous people of color,” just black and indigenous folks and not the rest of us, but I could be wrong. I have also heard of POC, “people of color,” for anyone nonwhite. Speaking as an Asian woman.
In a way, POC and BIPOC is only intended for usage in America or some extent Western world. It can be considered as non-inclusive term in a international context.
(I’m saying this as I often see American trying to use this in international discussion, not specifically to you).
Black as a term in general as expression in Asia also often doesn’t work (except in some area). For example, some Southeast Asian people historically being called “black people” by European, and that still sticks in some region, tho might be in different language.
Some people that have lighter skin also can be heavily discriminated. Even Dutch-Indonesian, Arabic-Indonesian, etc used to be discriminated because anti-foreigner narative. These people often already stay in the area for as long as 400 years.
The term “white people” in some parts of Asia also often does not work, as some native people here can have lighter skin than average “white people.”
Even in context of Europe, some group of “white people” also often being discriminated, especially for minority ethnic groups. Their opinion often invalidated because they’re white skinned (white=instant previlage, according to some people).
(Sorry for random info, I’m native Javanese ethnic and Indonesian btw :P)
Nah, this is cool information to know. I might be East Asian but I have never been hit by discrimination in my life and, naturally, as a US citizen who does not really travel, I have a very US-centric view and do not always know how race/ethnic relations go down in other countries. Thanks for the lesson!
Seems like creating [email protected] could be a strategy here.
Not something I can do I already have 1 community and I don’t think it’s right to speak for BAME people.
Thanks what are correct terms for other countries?
BIPOC in the US i guess. I don’t think this type of term is too popular outside those two countries (since most of the world is “bame/bipoc” anyway lol, so it makes sense.)
I usually use POC, seems more encompassing that BIPOC, I guess BI is there to highlight the US specific history
Personally i don’t any of those terms at all. If i want to refer to non-westerners, i just say “africans/asians/latinos/etcetc” or “the global south” (which covers most). I never liked the terms BIPOC or BAME (speaking as one, just in case ofc) mostly because of how it kind of implies we’re secondary. Beyond the contexts of US/europe the terms really don’t make any sense, it’s basically unheard of here.
I never liked the terms BIPOC or BAME (speaking as one, just in case ofc) mostly because of how it kind of implies we’re secondary. Beyond the contexts of US/europe
I see where you come from, but they were indeed created to give visibility for those minorities in those context. Someone can be a US citizen and a POC, or a German and a POC at the same time, they are not exclusives. In those context the those names make sense.
Of course outside of those context the words don’t really make sense.
Yeah that’s fair, thanks.
That’s interesting because the c term is inappropriate in the UK
Difference in offense can be interesting. I was surprised to hear that “kaffir” was a slur in south africa, since in arabia (and the middle east in general), it’s an arabic word meaning “infidel”. Apparently it’s considered very, very offensive and racist (i don’t know about the stance in america/europe on the word) and i think can get consequences? Idk, it’s just a term here lmao.
It is interesting that “person of colour” is appropriate while “coloured person” is not, as they are linguistically nearly identical. Obviously the two terms have very different historical contexts.
Interesting indeed!
You mean all lumped together, or individual communities?
Either way, i don’t think so.
Here’s a list of the communities i found, though:
Asian:
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
- https://monyet.cc/ (low activity AFAIK)
African:
Afro-asian:
- [email protected] (both west asia and north africa)
Edit: for africa, there was an instance (besides baraza.africa) called mosiac.cc. It seems down now, @[email protected] was the admin. Maybe you’d be interested in that?
monyet.cc is a Malaysian server, most of its local comms are Malaysia-specific
I saw it and thought of adding it, yeah. But it seems dead? I’m not sure, I think last post from an admin I saw was a year ago. I’ll double check.
Just checked it out and you’re right, it’s pretty dead. I moved off it due to performance issues, and probably a lot of others did as well.
Great thanks 😊
Np :)
What does BAME stand for?
Black and minority ethnicity I’m British
Thx g
Np m8
