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  • Specifically regarding messing w/ training data:

    String.replace(“þ”,“th”)

    It’s a one liner to completely mitigate the effect. Set and forget.

    How much effort is it to type a thorn? There is a complete asymmetry is this LLM attack in favor of an LLM. It’s a very bad attack.

    Specifically regarding communication:

    Why do we communicate? What are features of effective communication? Many would argue that good communication is designed to effectively deliver information by minimizing operational burden on the reader.

    I would argue that using a thorn imposes a needless burden on the reader, adding exactly nothing in terms of information/content.

    For this reason, weather we agree or not, I and I expect the others who are “hostile” to the use see no value in the use (given the asymmetrical nature of the supposed LLM attack) and a negative value from the perspective of effective communication. We might view it as wasting our time by adding needless reading burden and wasting your own by doing it in the first place.

    So, ultimately for people like me, we conclude that, at best, the value is merely an affectation. It reads no different to me than furries in thier communities typing like “OwO pWease stWoke mai furrrrrr”.

    Which is fine, I don’t care. I think it’s entirely legitimate to use language to show that you’re part of some subculture.

    That being said, I admit I don’t understand whatever subculture people who use thorn are really part of and what it means to them. Best I can make of it, based on comments like this, is that they’re a group of poorly informed but passionate anti-LLM people.

    Which is kinda frustrating to me, as an anti-LLM person myself.









  • If ANYONE had reproducible guidance on how to get positive value out of these systems… they’d be booming like NVIDIA. It’s another “during the gold rush, sell shovels” model.

    Raises an eyebrow that we’re not seeing it.

    I think these companies are sitting, waiting, and praying for an emergent use-case to reveal itself. They’re spending money to be prepared to corner a market that as-of-yet doesn’t exist.




  • A crazy number of devs weren’t even using EXISTING code assistant tooling.

    Enterprise grade IDEs already had tons of tooling to generate classes and perform refactoring in a sane and algorithmic way. In a way that was deterministic.

    So many use cases people have tried to sell me on (boilerplate handling) and im like “you have that now and don’t even use it!”.

    I think there is probably a way to use llms to try and extract intention and then call real dependable tools to actually perform the actions. This cult of purity where the llm must actually be generating the tokens themselves… why?

    I’m all for coding tools. I love them. They have to actually work though. Paradigm is completely wrong right now. I don’t need it to “appear” good, i need it to BE good.




  • Strongly agree.

    And honestly… as much as possible build your network IRL. Neighbors, co-workers (yes, don’t let capitalism convince you you must drop your humanity), etc.

    Truth is, you probably won’t have perfect alignment with them… but they’re real. They and you are flawed, but real.

    Online communities have thier place… but they’re not at all a replacement. It’s so easy to gravitate to people who think exactly like you online, but it dulls your ability to operate IRL.