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Cake day: June 15th, 2023

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  • I feel like it’s all gotta be from #8 right? It makes it pretty easy to get >0 legitimately, seems like it would be hard for anyone working on black holes to not have a double digit score from that alone.

    Though I could see some cheeky positive values from #13, assuming the theory is a well established one, Randi style. (Or #20 for the typo)








  • And when the choices are all false ones?

    Yeah, that was exactly my point.

    Nobody saying that “electoralism is a sham” is saying that’s the “be all end all of their political responsibility.” They just generally have a broader definition of “political responsibility”.

    Yeah that hasn’t been my experience. Especially in the last election cycle, I saw a lot of that supposed strawman. No community engagement, no actual political engagement, no workplace engagement, just “Kamala bad”. People who insisted that not voting or voting third party would send a message. Don’t pretend they don’t exist, I’ve talked to dozens.

    I stand by my statement. All else equal, a liberal who does nothing except vote Democrat is better by far than a “leftist” who does nothing except tell people not to vote Democrat.


  • Its liberals who believe that voting is the be all end all of their political responsibility.

    I’ll take a liberal who believes voting is the be all end all of their political responsibility over a “leftist” who believes not voting, and encouraging others not to vote, is the be all end all of their political responsibility.

    Electoral democracy is ultimately a misdirection. Capitalists are the actual sources of political power in western democracies.

    Yes, but a large source of that power is influencing electoral democracy. It does work, but all it does is reflect the choice of the people¹. It’s just that the people have been manipulated into counterproductive choices for so long. A defeatist approach to voting is one of those choices.

    No, voting can’t be the only thing you do. But it should be one of the things you do, and you should do it intelligently. Yes, we all want a more representative electoral mechanic, but until we get it we need to accept the properties of the field we’re playing on and act accordingly.

    ¹ Gerrymandering, voter suppression, and all the other ways of skewing democracy away from the actual will of the people only proves the point further. They wouldn’t be bothering with all that if elections didn’t have power.



  • still believing that voting the lesser evil will buy time when decades of taking this course

    Do you not see the glaring irony of that statement? We wouldn’t have had those decades without the lesser evil, we’d have gotten to where we are now 20 years ago.

    What exactly do you suggest? Greater evil? A wasted performative vote? A revolution made up of millions of people who don’t have the organization to vote strategically, but are nonetheless willing to sacrifice their lives in violent uprising?

    What’s your plan?