I think “liberal” is the opposite of “authoritarian” and “left” is the opposite of “right”. America has never really done left wing and the liberals are more lib centre than lib left, whilst the conservatives are auth right. American “centrists” are loony right wing by European standards. Tankies are auth left, so find liberals annoyingly non-left and annoyingly non-auth, which is why they have so much to say against dems, whilst the gop is to a tankie at least auth even if they’re annoyingly right wing.

I will never understand why tankies act like the last 50 years of Russian history including the complete overthrow of communism never happened. It’s like they kept the worst bits of the soviet approach, threw out all the good bits and added the worst excesses of uncontrolled capitalism instead.

As a lib left, I find much to disagree with in all those places, but most strongly with the auth right like trump, putin and their chums.

I’m very very disappointed with UK Labour trying to fix the housing crisis by deregulating to “free up” the housing industry to remove the housing shortage. It’s like trying to fix an active alcoholic by giving them the keys to the liquor cabinet. You’ll only fix the housing crisis with a massive program of council house building. Anything else is papering over the cracks. You’ll only fix the NHS by bringing social care under the same funding roof and investing massively.

China gets some things right like massive public investment and very long term planning, but other things wrong like authoritarianism. I’m amused that Trump thought he could outsmart a civilization that’s been doing diplomacy for thousands of years and has largely (but definitely not exclusively) been a meriticracy for a very long time.

Some of the Scandinavian democracies have been the best run countries for a long long time.

Anyway, I’m sure you’ll find plenty to hate on there.

I think you two live in different counties and actually agree.

The initial investment can be very expensive, yes, but a good underground system or largely off-road overground system in a city can be profitable from reasonable fares because of the sheer quantity of passengers it can move per hour.

Once you get to the frequency where you don’t look up the timetable before you set off because there’ll be one along shortly and you get to the speed where you beat the traffic, you start winning passengers from cars and them everyone has a better commute.

But if there’s only a few per hour and they have to mix in with the traffic, public transport is worse than going by car, so people don’t use it en masse, so fares are high and it’s not great.

Definitely, but then thirty years later, I look just like my uncles, and my daughters are starting to look more and more like their auntie and I stopped worrying about it all.

You refuse to acknowledge that trump is the instigator of a whole bunch of racist shit.

No, I refuse to acknowledge your cause-effect. You say that people is racist because Trump won

Absolutely not. I claim that trump is the instigator of a whole bunch of racist shit, not that he causes racism. This was the worst straw man argument ever.

assume you are right and DEI is the right thing, so why only in cushy c-level jobs ?

More stuff I never said, more assuming that I run the American Democratic Party (despite never having set foot in the USA).

but not agree on how it is executed and I don’t think to be a racist for this

Lol you got triggered and ranted all day because someone disagreed with Trump’s interpretation of discrimination. You agree with trump but you don’t want to say so because you don’t like admitting that you have a lot in common with the stupid racist in chief.

Trump was elected because a very significant minority of Americans are racist, and the Republican party have been eroding democracy for decades.

You refuse to acknowledge that trump is the instigator of a whole bunch of racist shit.

People like you voted for him then blamed people like me for their reactionary shit.

The problem is that people like me are the ones that see what happen, do not say anything but in the end vote based on what they see and what candidates say.

No, the problem is that people like you criticise diversity, equality and inclusion and like to pretend that it’s discriminatory when it’s working against racial inequality and racial discrimination.

…do not say anything…

Lol. You wrote paragraphs on why you think DEI is bad and then you blamed DEI policies for the election of trump! You’re part of the mindless “blame Democrats for everything whether they oppose it or not” crowd and you are incapable of shutting up about how you think DEI and Democrats are wrong.

but in the end vote based on what they see and what candidates say

Anyone who takes trump or his international chums at their word is an idiot.

If you wanted to win, you should have

“you”?!

For someone who claims to be European, you’re pretty bad at realising that there are people who don’t live in America (including me, in case that persisted in escaping your attention), and you’re pretty bad at realising that it’s possible to be against racism whilst not being part of the leadership of the Democratic Party of the United States of America.

Not everyone who is anti-racist is in the DNC, and not everyone in the DNC is anti-racist.

I would have thought that was obvious, but then there is a correlation between racism and lower educational attainment.

Supporting the racist in chief for equality’s sake is insane.

I don’t care about Trump, it is not my problem, in EU Trump policies are irrelevant.

And yet here you are, arguing in support of his policies.

But Trump is a consequence, not a cause.

You have that really fucked up for two reasons.

1. Trump is instigating all kinds of racist shit policies
2. Racism is NOT caused by inclusive words or actions, it’s a reaction against them by people who were racist from the start.

You people voted for him.

No one like me voted for Trump. People like you voted for him then blamed people like me for their reactionary shit.

Apply to the EU instead.

I don’t know how you didn’t spot that Trump is a massive racist and just wants to make life shit for people who aren’t white and that’s all he cares about. When Trump says DEI, he means black people or hispanic people or anyone who isn’t white having a job at all. He calls it equality but he means it racist. I don’t know how that can have passed you by. Supporting the racist in chief for equality’s sake is insane.

I like it.

Shame.

You’ll have to make your point more explicitly, I’m afraid.

Unclear. Does this mean you blocked me?

Ah thank you.

All this hate for a little quirky difference!

You’re supposed to grow out of hating people for being different when you’re in school, and if you never reach that level of tolerance/maturity, join the Republican party.

There are people in this thread acting like homophobic boomers freaking out over boys having long hair: “I’VE TOLD YOU IT’S WRONG AND YET YOU PERSIST. YOU’RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE ME ANGRY. WHY DO YOU INSIST ON MAKING ME ANGRY?” Er, we were just having fun.

Haters gonna hate.

Niiiiice thank you so much for pointing this out.

You’re posting this exact comment up and down the thread. Get a new hobby. Hating on people for doing things differently is juvenile and Republican.

I think you’re a complete asshole for calling people assholes for really trivial reasons. Block me too!

Interesting. Do I have one?