Humans with human eyeballs are still using Reddit? I thought it was just bots moderating bots by now.
happy cake day
Who TF is actually going to want to use these platforms bad enough to do this shit?
Facebook sucks and has for quite some time.
Reddit is mainly just very poorly disguised government surveillance and AI generated advertisement, and none of the content is even enjoyable or enticing. Who TF is their target audience?
You severely overestimate how much the average person cares about their own privacy.
Even so, are they going to acquire, set up, and use an iris scanner just to remain anonymous on Reddit?
It’ll be in yer phone
Probably someday, but the article is describing a dedicated orb device that does this.
Who TF is their target audience?
Useful idiots
Bots
Facebook sucks and has for quite some time.
In Canada we passed a regulation that social media sites have to pay our media companies to link to their articles. Google is paying up, but Facebook said no, and has banned news. It has made Facebook here much less terrible.
So how much are they paying reddit, exactly…?
I can see why Reddit needs to secure the user base. As not accounts proliferate they need to be able to demonstrate verified real users to their advertisers. Unfortunately for privacy, this will be widespread, in that case. I’m opting out.
On the one hand, I understand the inherent limitations of pseudonymous social media and why a corporation and even end users might benefit from authoritative user identification.
On the other hand, oh hell no.
As explained, it’s not even quite user identification, but rather verification of a unique individual. The ability to identify that an account is held by a unique person (as opposed to possibility being one of many puppet accounts) is pretty useful, particularly if it’s not possible to backtrace it to an otherwise identifiable person.
Even so, the problem I see with this system is that a person has to be careful to never, ever, ever associate their unique ID with themselves, though there will be constant pressure to do so.
Exactly. Reddit isn’t my fucking bank. They don’t need to know who I am.
Your bank doesn’t even need to know who you are.
On a related note, Bank of America, if you’re reading this, my name is floop @lemmy.dbzer0.com, and I would like to withdraw all the money from my account. Nonsequential bills please!
The banks are legally required to know who you are. It’s part of AML and anti-terrorist financing laws
It’s called KYC or “know your customer”.
KYC? Isn’t that a sex lube?
Who is floop?
I am floop!
I’m on to you Spartacus!
We are floop!
They don’t even require an email when signing up. At the same time they speed run to biometrics.
What a shit show they’ve become.
Whatcha mean, they obviously need to count the wrinkles on your dirty balloon knot.
- Saved them the trouble.
Wow who’s your butthole guy?
Wtf is this sorcery your post says “1.” but when I reply its “37.”
huh… maybe because of the period and no space? Markdown thinks it’s a list item?
- Lets see.
Hum
I mean, there’s someone here who has (not even exaggerating) 15+ accounts that they just rotate thru.
It’s a hassle to block them all because I still see new ones, but I’ll take that over “proving myself” as a unique person with something like this.
I haven’t seen like any hilariouschaos users in awhile
I don’t think psudonyms are an issue, but verifying that a user is an actual person vs an AI chatbot is absolutely something that every popular social media platform will need to tackle at some point.
Hmm funny how Sam Altman is one of the few people responsible for creating that problem and now he’s selling the solution to it
It’s actually low-key brilliant. Start a gold rush, when you realize the gold isn’t actually there, pivot to selling shovels and keep hyping the gold rush. Fools and their money are soon parted, and there seem to be an endless supply of them.
He’s a modern day arms dealer.
The bot problem has been around since before Sam Altman was old enough to legally drink. For example in the early days the founders of Reddit were running bots to make the site look wayyy busier than it actually was in order to attract new users.
He’s a convenient bogey-man, and a huge asshole, but he’s the not the source of this problem.
Why? Internet rules from the days gone by - everyone is a liar. So it shouldn’t matter.
Will they though? Facebook has already created undisclosed bot accounts themselves before. A Platform where real users and such bots are indistinguishable (for the user) sounds like a social media corpos and authoritarian governments wet dream to me. Also reminds me of the attempts to disguise ads as natural content.
Sure but they only want the bots they approve of. That way they can charge for the privilege of allowing someone’s preferred bots onto the platform.
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This worldcoin? Yeah, it’s looking real good right now…
I’ll give you $1 per eyeball
here. have jar. $20 please.
are they really trying to make us ponder an orb to get onto reddit
scan your eyes to use social media? don’t mind if I DONT lol
But think of all the convenience you gain by not having to remember a password! That darn brain of mine
I will happily forego any/all social media (and never look back) rather than submit to such an idiotic, intrusive, perverse, and disgusting system.
🤦♀️ 🙄 🤡 🖕 💩
If World ID becomes one of Reddit’s third-party providers, it would be good news for Tools for Humanity, which was founded six years ago with the lofty goal of providing a universal basic income to the world by offering them cryptocurrency called Worldcoin in exchange for scanning their eyeballs with an Orb.
What the actual fuck.
Seriously how on Earth is that supposed to work?
Selling data on people is a lucrative business. Although it is a business and not UBI.
Okay I’ve scanned my eyeball and I’ve got some of their worthless cryptocurrency. What about next month, do they want me to scan my eyeball again, because I guarantee it won’t have changed.
It could probably be worth it to keep an active eye on your data even if it remains roughly the same. To keep an established base line, to keep an eye out for changes in environment in specific areas, to monitor the effects of aging, to sell you shit when your eye gets damaged. Probably other evil shit too, or just the paranoid urge to surveil people for no damn reason.
It’s just a buzzword volly to get people to want to surrender more data. Actually insane premise lmao
I read about this a few years ago, and even saw them in a mall in Western EU.
The whole thing is just bio-data mining, and they started by preying on some poor regions in Africa
So this guy helps create a technology that turns bots up to 11 and then he turns around to sell us a privacy invasive solution to the problem he created? What a fucking asshole.
But would it make you feel better to know that there’s also a crypto currency associated with it?
I can’t believe you’ve done this to me
Isn’t he an accelerationist? To them the more fuck ups we have the more solutions we make, which is pretty stupid of an argument in my opinion.
I agree. We obviously need to make huge changes to how we live asap, but it seems so profoundly stupid to let a few unelected people break things without a collectively agreed upon plan in place.
Scan your biounique eyeball to provide ID whilst retaining your anonymity???
Anonymity and the ability for someone else to prove it was me are nearly opposites.
I mean, I don’t trust OpenAI or Reddit either but these two things aren’t as mutually exclusive as they seem.
With zero-knowledge principles you could maintain anonymity while still verifying identity. Doesn’t mean that’s what big tech is doing or is gonna do, but also doesn’t mean it’s physically unreal or anything either. We could build a not shitty system.
Biounique id is an advertiser’s wet dream and I don’t think it’s theoretically possible to prevent it from being exploited for profiling by Google. If the hashed encrypted token retains the uniqueness then it points to you as an individual across time, devices and location changes. There is no escaping this ID. You can’t change it, you can’t get a new one.
Google and other multinational corporations WILL know where you live and can figure out all your personal characteristics with a little time. Your anonymity is gone forever.
Sam Altman saw the film Minority Report in which iris scanners on holographic billboards trigger the advertisements to address you by name, hampering the escape of the central character who was being set up, and thought “Cool, let’s make this. I’m going to be rich! The other dystopian aspects of the film are fiction, but this one I can make real.”
In theory the unique id produced by the scan could be salted by you, uniquely for each website or application, and then provided to the site. This would keep aggregators from being able to track all your activity, or at least it would if they didn’t already have fingerprinting techniques that do it without the need of another unique identifier.
If the biometric ID is collected and stored by someone else, not only have I lost my anonymity, I’ve also lost control of my identity and there’s no way for me to stop that happening.
This is unequivocally bad for privacy.
Also look at how FB et al can’t even keep themselves from tracking you all over the internet using all kinds of clever engineering engineering beyond plain cookies.
If it actually becomes ubiquitous, the ability to tie all the anonymous impressions to one person is too tempting for surveillance ghouls.
Identity does not need to be verified by a private company’s scan of someone’s eyeballs.
Exactly!
Lol. The bots to humans ratio will get even bigger if that happens.
It works: You can tell the real humans because they’ll be the only ones unwilling to do this invasive bullshit. The bots will just come up with something fake to scan and carry on as they always have.
The bots will just come up with something fake to scan and carry on as they always have.
Like a real human eye? Is this how Skynet starts?
Wouldn’t it just be reverse engineering what the scanner does? If you have a close enough copy of thesnanning tech couldn’t you have a bot rapidly iterate eyeballs in some form till it can pass the real version a couple times and repeat with the iteration process?
don’t kink shame my dude
Drink verification can to continue.
2013, Quasimodo predicted this
Thanks Reddit for giving me yet another reason not to go back
I got banned for more or less saying Elon is a miserable twat who deserves bad things to happen to him on that one thread where people went full board on the gruesome depictions and that was enough for a permaban. Fuck Reddit.
I got banned for saying that poisoning an invasive species like cats isn’t any different than poisoning an invasive species like rats, except that cats are cute and fluffy and rats are not.
It was under a post about the Australian government putting up poison traps to combat the local cat population which is threatening local endangered wildlife.
FUCK no.
I thought this was an onion article or something
Sure…as if they get my bio-data. That company will at best get a 1-way salted hash.
