Fuck Yankies

There’s a barrier to entry in those cases. If you’re DNS actively reroutes people are mostly inclined not to try and figure out a way to bypass it - unless bothered, like we see with the porn access law in Florida.

In any case, you can do packet dropping on a routing level from the ISP - which technically isn’t a national firewall, even if it serves the same purpose.

Segmenting the internet means doing routing in a way where the link between nodes is actively blocked, which is something completely different and is more what you’ll get behind the Chinese “firewall” - when it is more like a physical barrier than a firewall rule, because it’ll be impossible to actually facilitate a manual link, whereas a DNS blocking can be more easily bypassed.

There’s level to these problems and just having a “national firewall” means nothing, because it doesn’t get down to the minutia of what’s actually being achieved.

You don’t know and yet you pipe up. There’s a logical fallacy in there somewhere.

I’m sorry to say this, but the web ≠ the internet and foreign services ≠ the internet. If it was a question of starting massive invasive national firewalls, or segmenting the national net away from the wider internet through either routing or physical separation, then we are in agreement.

But tbh Twitter and Meta’s platforms should be carpet banned from Europe. Reddit can stay, and so can TikTok, but after the history both Mega and Musk’s Twitter has had, I think it’s perfectly defensible to tell them to fuck off - especially when they target vulnerable people who are impressionable, like the elderly.

And please, no American “slippery slope” argument, because it should be added to the logical fallacies list.