Of course. Because we’re social creatures, that’s our natural state

Most of humanity’s problems exist not because they’re inherent, it’s because for 1000 generations we’ve been building up self-reinforcing social structures that have entered the end stage. Where everything is squeezed for profit and the real value of it is drained away

We like to do things together. We’re wired for it. With unlimited time and resources, why would we not live near and visit our favorite people? Why would we not explore the world around us? Why would we not work to make life nicer? Why would we not reach out to others who fall through the cracks and find themselves isolated?

Yeah, but that would be like launching a nuke. The whole world is dependent on TSMC for like… All of modern life

Luxury space communism is what they have in Star Trek.

You can make anything with no human labor, so why shouldn’t everyone have access to whatever luxuries they want? Obviously there are practical limits for the common good, like everyone can’t have a yacht, there’s not room and it’d destroy the oceans. But everyone could share a fleet of yachts

Instead, people work for social status, and because humans just like working

What I’m referring to is what if we mastered automation and shared the fruits of robotic labor freely? When machines can build and maintain themselves outside of the gravity well with no human involvement, we’d have an exponentially scaling pool of workers and basically infinite raw materials

Then we’d be free to do the jobs we want to do, not what has to be done or what has a high work to reward ratio

Tomorrow the Epstein files will be released, 70% of all politicians and most billionaires will be arrested for pedophilia, and we will come together as one to build luxury space communism

Don’t wake me up.

China seems to be closest though, if they reach viable modern CPUs first…

But realistically, I think China made a deal with the West to hold off on Taiwan until we have at least one modern chip fab working in the US and Europe

Yeah, that’s what I mean

Doesn’t matter if China’s chips are economically viable if they’re the only ones making advanced chips…

And even then, it’ll need to be commerically viable to compete with the West.

Well, unless they invaded Taiwan…

What the shit??? Fucking team Cherry, they always hit you out of nowhere…

I don’t think you understand what doing code reviews is like.

So someone submits terrible code. You don’t get to just say “this is bad code” and reject it wholesale, you have to explain in exhaustive detail what the problems are. Doing otherwise leads to really toxic environments. It’s killed countless projects

That’s why you write rules. You don’t have to argue if they need tests or not, you tap the sign and reject it without actually reviewing it if it doesn’t meet the requirement

Same thing here. You open up vibe coded nonsense so you tap the sign and reject it without bothering to review it. Do the same thing with “bad code” as a reason and it starts insane drama.

People are really sensitive about their code, and there’s a whole methodology around how to do without ending up in a screaming match

Well I was just arguing that people generally are using AI irresponsibly, but if you want to get specific…

You say ban the users, but realistically how are they determining that? The only way to reliably check if something is AI is human intuition. There’s no tool to do that, it’s a real problem

So effectively, they made it an offense to submit AI slop. Because if you just use AI properly as a resource, no one would be able to tell

So what are you upset about?

They did basically what you suggested, they just did it by making a rule so that they can have a reason to reject slop without spending too much time justifying the rejection

People have already died to AI. It’s cute when the AI tells you to put glue on your pizza or asks you to leave your wife, it’s not so cute when architects and doctors use it

Bad information can be deadly. And if you rely too hard on AI, your cognitive abilities drop. It’s a simple mental shortcut that works on almost everything

It’s only been like 18 months, and already it’s become very apparent a lot of people can’t be trusted with it. Blame and punish those people all you want, it’ll just keep happening. Humans love their mental shortcuts

Realistically, I think we should just make it illegal to have customer facing LLMs as a service. You want an AI? Set it up yourself. It’s not hard, but realizing it’s just a file on your computer would do a lot to demystify it

We do this all the time. I’m certified for a whole bunch of heavy machinery, if I were worse people would’ve died

And even then, I’ve nearly killed someone. I haven’t, but on a couple occasions I’ve come way too close

It’s good that I went through training. Sometimes, it’s better to restrict who is able to use powerful tools

Okay, that’s pretty fair. You seem to understand the tool properly

I’d argue that version control is not the correct layer to evaluate output, but it is a tool that can be used in many different ways…I don’t think that’s a great workflow, but I can conceive situations where that’s viable enough

If I were handing out authorizations to use AI, you’d get it

That sounds like copium… But I’ll hear you out. What if VC? It better not be version control

The difference is people aren’t being responsible with AI

You’re projecting competence onto others. You speak like you’re using AI responsibly

I use AI when it makes things easier. All the time. I bet you do too. Many people are using AI without a steady hand, without the intellectual strength to use it properly in a controlled manner

Oh, I’d feel nauseous lol, those nuggets are so gross and I don’t really like the fries

I’m a huge fan of AI, but come on… It’s being used in the most reckless and insane ways. It’s so insanely destructive to society

Our experience so far has not been that AI is capable of or going to replace our labor. However, the threat of AI and the use of AI mandates has been used already to drive down wages, institute speedups, and generally degrade our working conditions.

Have you noticed how a lot of software has been getting worse, like way buggier? How three times now, huge swaths of the Internet have gone down?

It’s because tech companies keep laying people off. They’re already operating a skeleton crew, and now they’re trying to replace portions of that skeleton crew with AI

And already, it’s not working.

At this rate, remotely complicated software is going to become a lost technology

I do agree with that, fascism is really easy to organize… Granted it always has a shelf life for the same underlying reasons

But conservatism more broadly? It only feels that way because there’s been a concentrated effort for a century to propagandize people. Liberals gave so much ground that cutting social programs and public private partnerships became the default position for both parties. There’s so many lies that go uncontested… Some of the myths commonly believed about capitalism and government are insane, and that isn’t an accident

In the days of FDR it was really easy to organize for progressives… The momentum was there. People’s lives were improving noticeably, they had hope for the future, and they had confidence in the leadership

Political momentum is the key. The pendulum is shifting quickly left, so it’s becoming easier to organize on the left than it’s been for generations. It’ll get even easier if the promises are delivered on, disenfranchised voters will need less and less convincing to mobilize

Holy shit, you’re a fucking retard. Like of the “people look and laugh” scale. I’m unironically going to take your response to share with technical people in my life to laugh over

And no hate to the mentally ill, I’ve never laughed at them. I laugh with them, because they’re delightful and love joy to an extent that leaves me jealous

But you’re not a real person. You’re a joke, if your ego was two sizes smaller I’d be gently explaining to you how no number of code katas would result in Microsoft XP

No, I mean this is a well documented thing that happened… They literally infiltrated leftist groups and would sow division and call for endless votes and debates on banal issues

I am talking about intersectionality, but I don’t think we should use that word. It’s big and scares the common idiot. Also it has implications about being idpol, which is thoroughly tainted at this point

I’m not saying you have to give ground… I’m talking about focus on good messaging. You don’t have to throw trans people or Palestinians under the bus. You don’t have to hide your positions or be apologetic either

But we all need to focus on message discipline. We need to be evangelical. Houses. Healthcare. Food. Wages. Tax the rich. Fix our democracy

Basically everyone agrees on the real issues, and we must be as Mumdani. He doesn’t back down, he’s totally unapologetic about his stances, but he doesn’t get distracted

Tight, focused messaging. Universal problems, simple to understand solutions. No pamphlets, no scary words