Halfway through he describes this as malicious compliance with the “right to repair” law. Apple and others are making a mockery of the law.

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      It’s an electronic parking brake. Those are common now because a small switch takes up less interior space than a lever for a cable-actuated parking brake, and the computer can disengage the parking brake if it detects that the driver is attempting to drive with it activated. The computer is involved in brake pad replacement to tell the parking brake motor to open to its widest position to accept new pads, and calibrate itself to their thickness.

      This requires a special adapter and software subscription rather than a button on the infotainment screen because Hyundai is engaging in rent-seeking and perhaps trying to direct business to its dealers.

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        Guess I’ll add this to the list of reasons I’m keeping my current car until it falls apart.

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        So if your brakes go out and you try to use the parking brake for a slow stop it won’t do anything anymore?

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          Correct, though the car in question here is electric and will almost certainly use the motors to slow the car to reuse that energy. The motors should be able to stop the car even if the hydraulic brakes fail, and probably more effectively than a mechanical parking brake.

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          Every vehicle I’ve had with an electric parking brake operated the same way. Hold the park button while moving and it starts clamping the parking brake down, let off the button and it starts to release. So you can basically PWM the parking brake in an emergency.

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          apparently some do and some don’t. or they require a particular cheat code when pressing the button, idk.

          the point is, you can’t trust your parking brake to be an emergency brake anymore, you press a button and hope something happens

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        Part of it is space savings or just making the interior more appealing. Why have this huge space dedicated to the parking brake (hand lever) and gear shift.

        Welcome to the future…(toggle switch to the right is the parking brake)

        My favorite is one of my parents vehicles…let’s put the gear shift next to the radio and the radio controls down by the HVAC.

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          Part of it is space savings or just making the interior more appealing.

          Never seen the third pedal on an American car/truck?

          Why have this huge space dedicated to the parking brake (hand lever) and gear shift.

          It’s not a “huge space” and the reason is because they’re significantly less expensive, more reliable, and easier to adjust and repair.

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            I own a truck with such a pedal and I own a manual car. I’ve only ever had the pedal on trucks. All the cars I’ve ever owned have all been hand levers(regardless of transmission). If it wasn’t clear…I’m not arguing for this change but I semi-understand why it’s coming.

            I’m not happy about the near entire extinction of the manual transmission in the US either. There are only a handful of cars that even offer it anymore and most of those are performance models with hefty price tags.

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                Conversely…they put the electric parking brakes in the higher trims of American trucks too. So what’s your point?

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                  My point is the electric parking brakes are not necessary or beneficial in any way. They only serve to make the vehicle more expensive and less reliable.

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                That’s not what I said. I said I’ve never owned one. They’re far more common on trucks/vans. I know cars have them. Usually more towards the luxury side of the market but that again comes down to making the interior look more streamlined and fancy.

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                  I’m not sure what your point was in that statement if not to infer that they don’t exist.