• Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      7 minutes ago

      Socialist isn’t the opposite of authoritarian. In some dimensions it is. In others it’s unrelated. The USSR can be both socialist and authoritarian. Many argue it was both.

    • dogbert@lemmy.zipOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      4 hours ago

      Socialism requires a dictatorship of the proletariat. Have you never read theory?

      • nexguy@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 hours ago

        That is “state socialism” as pushed by cold war propaganda (marxism-leninism interpretation). Socialism certainly doesn’t require a dictatorship.

        • dogbert@lemmy.zipOP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          1 hour ago

          The only other option would be magic.

          When you establish a socialist nation, the resources of the ruling must be extracted by force, as they cannot be reasoned with. They will not simply give up their wealth because socialism won. The only option is to take the resources by force. The exact same sort of force they use on us today.

          Feel free to provide any other realistic solution to wealth redistribution. That is the issue with people like you that don’t read theory. You think socialism just magically happens. The countries that ACTUALLY did this shit know that isn’t how this works.

          • nexguy@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            29 minutes ago

            There has never been a transition from a large mature capitalist republic to a socialist republic society(ussr certainty didn’t). No one can predict how it will happen, certainly not you and certainly not me. The ussr is no model at all for the future of the United states.