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  • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    19 hours ago

    It’s only baffling if you don’t listen to the actual reasons people believe things and just assume it’s because Russia used to be socialist, regardless of how many people say otherwise.

    Liberals will refuse to listen to our explanations of our positions and then call our positions bizarre and indecipherable. Because you get your understanding of our positions from stories you make up and pass around about us that have no basis in reality.

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      17 hours ago

      I know I shouldn’t bite, and it’ll all end in tears, but this bait is too tempting!

      if you don’t listen to the actual reasons people believe things and just assume it’s because Russia used to be socialist

      What, specifically is good about specifically Russia as it is nowadays, from a leftist perspective, that isn’t because it used to be socialist?!

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      7 hours ago

      I never said tankies support Russia because it used to be (allegedly) socialist, I’m saying it’s wild you promote it as AES when it fucking isn’t.

      And I’ve heard the apologia for the Ukraine invasion, and it’s all bullshit.

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        8 hours ago

        Not a single person says the Russian Federation is socialism. You’re confusing people critically supporting its movements against the US Empire with people believing it to be socialist. They do have rising socialist sympathies among the populace, but that doesn’t make them socialist.

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        15 hours ago

        I’m saying it’s wild you promote it as AES when it fucking isn’t.

        And I’m saying no one considers Russia to be AES, it’s a strawman that libs tell each other about us until they forget they made it up.

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          14 hours ago

          Actually you’re right, I misspoke. The comment said that modern Russia isn’t anywhere near USSR ideals, to which I said makes it even more baffling that tankies support it.

          So yes, it’s not AES, which makes it obvious that tankies supporting Russia are anti-us campists and not anti imperialists.

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            11 hours ago

            By that logic, you don’t even need to know my stance on Russia, because the fact that I opposed the war in Afghanistan “proves I’m not anti-imperialist.” The Taliban definitely isn’t socialist either, after all.