• LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    The left has to rally around all sorts of nuances to reach agreement. The right basically just has one thing: fear.

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      No we don’t. The CIA and FBI intentionally created this culture in leftist movements, why do we need to debate and reach consensus on everything?

      We can just stop infighting, shut up about praxis and labels, and march together until we differ. It would leave us in a better place to go even further, however we might envision it

      Healthcare, lower rents, higher pay, workers rights, tax the rich. Just get on the bus, you can get off whenever you like but we can’t all hold up the bus driver

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        I don’t think it’s a psyop. Leftism as an ideology values diversity and reconciling a diversity of views and life experiences is hard. The only bus fit to leave is intersectionalist. If it’s not, you’re asking people to get on a bus where you’re better off but they aren’t.

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          23 hours ago

          No, I mean this is a well documented thing that happened… They literally infiltrated leftist groups and would sow division and call for endless votes and debates on banal issues

          I am talking about intersectionality, but I don’t think we should use that word. It’s big and scares the common idiot. Also it has implications about being idpol, which is thoroughly tainted at this point

          I’m not saying you have to give ground… I’m talking about focus on good messaging. You don’t have to throw trans people or Palestinians under the bus. You don’t have to hide your positions or be apologetic either

          But we all need to focus on message discipline. We need to be evangelical. Houses. Healthcare. Food. Wages. Tax the rich. Fix our democracy

          Basically everyone agrees on the real issues, and we must be as Mumdani. He doesn’t back down, he’s totally unapologetic about his stances, but he doesn’t get distracted

          Tight, focused messaging. Universal problems, simple to understand solutions. No pamphlets, no scary words

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            9 hours ago

            I still think it’s a genuinely harder coordination problem to solve compared to rallying around conservative ideals and that it’s not solely due to CIA and FBI interference. But I upvoted you and I agree with a lot of what you’re saying.

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              9 hours ago

              I do agree with that, fascism is really easy to organize… Granted it always has a shelf life for the same underlying reasons

              But conservatism more broadly? It only feels that way because there’s been a concentrated effort for a century to propagandize people. Liberals gave so much ground that cutting social programs and public private partnerships became the default position for both parties. There’s so many lies that go uncontested… Some of the myths commonly believed about capitalism and government are insane, and that isn’t an accident

              In the days of FDR it was really easy to organize for progressives… The momentum was there. People’s lives were improving noticeably, they had hope for the future, and they had confidence in the leadership

              Political momentum is the key. The pendulum is shifting quickly left, so it’s becoming easier to organize on the left than it’s been for generations. It’ll get even easier if the promises are delivered on, disenfranchised voters will need less and less convincing to mobilize