• defunct_punk@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Relatively, moving to the US has been so much harder than moving out for a long time now

    Wut? Barring like the past 10 months of the current administration (because you said “for a long time”), the US has consistently been at the top of the charts for gross immigration for decades.

    Where do you even get the idea that the average American (poor, monolingual, undereducated/uncredited) has an easier time moving to another (comparable) country than one does to it?

    • 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de
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      7 days ago

      Yes, I was referring to someone in the top 50% of earners, still half of all people in the US.

      To get to most countries if you’re on that demographic, you just need to have a job.

      To get to the US historically, you needed to either get a H1B visa, which last I heard had a 9% chance per year, enter the green card lottery, which has a 0.3% chance per year, or transfer within your company after getting promoted to a managerial role via an L1A visa, which is a slow process and very dependant on who you work for, and on your origin country for acceptance rates.

      For people in the bottom 50%, I agree it’s historically been easier to go the US with the green card lottery, fairly accessible visas if you have immediate family living in the US, and even for illegal immigration with birthright citizenship, as then you can get a green card through your children.

      I was basing my comment on the fact most people on Lemmy are going to be nerds working in IT/Sciences/Engineering, but even then, if you take a mean “ease for a random sample to move” then it’s still harder to move to the US than out of it.