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    It’s just computers, you fools. If a tractor replaces workers, does it pay taxes? Nonsense. The person receiving the income pays taxes.

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      Unless, of course, that income is in the form of increased stock value, and the owner never creates a taxable event. We will continue to be taxed on increasingly diminishing wages while wealth accumulates in the hands of those who pay no taxes.

      I don’t think it’s foolish to suggest taxing the owners of these machines as way securing economic stability. Although it would be foolish to think it will happen without a real revolution.

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        I’m amenable to a progressive wealth tax, under which such computing infrastructure should be included.

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      Actually in many states in localities there is an equipment tax, so yes, in a way taxes are paid on the equipment that isn’t income.

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    No, because that’s communism and regulation! Do you want the US to lose the AI race against communist China?

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    I just had an original thought! How should I pay my taxes in order to keep having this thought per year? (Its tits!)

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    ATM’s replaced workers. Self serve gas pumps replaced workers. Self serve checkouts replaced workers. The spinning jenny replaced workers. The light bulb replaced workers. Vending machines replaced workers. None paid taxes.

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      I don’t think a light bulb replaced any workers there bub. You might not be the sharpest spoon in the drawer.

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        There used to be people who were hired to go around lighting the oil street lamps at dusk. Sharpest spoon. lol. Hilariously ironic.

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            And I’m sure the asteroid field surveyors are mad we are still surveying Earth.

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              What does that have to do with oil lamp lighter being replaced by electricians, power generator operators, HVAC technicians. I thought this site had smarter people but alas you all are just dumb gay furries.

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        There were people who went around lighting oil street lamps and stuff like that before the electric lightbulb.

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            Probably sat around doing nothing thinking “man I started this job and called it an electrician, but I can’t find work because no one even knows what electricity is. Hell I don’t either.”

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              Oh I’m sorry I commented. I’m sorry I caused that painful feeling again you have in your brain like once a year. Carry on in your black and white world I’m sure there’s no data we could look at finding the jobs lost from electricity vs the jobs gained.

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                This whole useless chain of comments was simply an attempt to inform you that there was a type of job that was lost after lightbulbs and electricity came into use because you made a comment that suggested you didn’t know it existed, that’s literally it, anything extra is you jumping to make assumptions. No one is suggesting that there weren’t jobs gained afterwards…

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                  Let me shed a tear for the ice man, milk man, typewriter salesman, and coal heat delivery guy. Some jobs will be lost and won’t be upgraded at all.

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              Lol I’m sure that’s not bullshit propaganda taught to school children in the USA. A fairy tale, just like the other one "don’t worry about being shot and murdered in school it’s perfectly safe.

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    Don’t listen to the other comments here, your question was a valid one. You could expand on the thought by asking who gets paid in the first place. If AI becomes AGI which becomes sentient, should that entity not get paid for the work they produce? Then I could see it paying taxes. Would it then have to pay rent to live in the computer provided it? I think yes. The key here is to consider that using this approach to AI autonomy could help constrain the reckless pursuits we are seeing today.