Wow. First, no I’m not trolling. But we have a bit more open view in Europe. You’ve just got all corporate control with a lot of propaganda in the US. If you’re open to it, I invite you on research on countries with more than 2 (and even almost identical) parties and without backing of the rich.
Yes I might be off about your spectrum, but the last deeper research I read was that over the decades your two right wing options narrowed down even more and by now they’re indistinguishable (for the common folk. Of course it would be better not to have trump but you have more political issues than that).
Considering our political spectrum includes both democratic socialists that model their politics off of European leftist examples and actual communists who think China is a good model to follow, I’m pretty sure you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Political spectrum isn’t just about political parties. The two parties in the US don’t represent the full spectrum of political opinions in the country. If you want to understand that, you’re going to have to dig deeper.
OK, I think we don’t understand each other because the spectrum is not represented (to the voter) at all in the US and you can only choose between two parties on the right. If you ignore that it’s not me needing research.
Look. I linked you the German parliament. We vote parties in there and they’re actively participating in the law making process there. They’re on our voting ballots.
Please tell me how you can vote for anyone else than dem and rep in the US. That was what I was talking about. Since (afaik) that is not possible you only have access to get a right party into the legislation.
And also to be clear this is not about looking down on the US. We have other huge issues here, too.
If you vote Democratic, you’re getting a far better version of leftist politics than the GOP. No, it’s not ideal leftist politics, because Dems are still beholden to US megacorps, and that is definitely a problem. But you can’t assert that because voting options are limited, political will is restricted to those options. The U.S. is undergoing a major political problem right now, which may well result in the dissolution of both parties and a broader multi-party system. You can’t just point to a country’s political parties and say, “well, they have only those two options, so they’re locked in forever, and those two options represent the entire country’s political will.” That’s ridiculous. There’s much to be said about the rise of far right politics in Europe right now, but you wouldn’t endorse opinions that the EU is trapped between far-left and far-right politics, would you? No, most people have views that register in-between. The same is true in America. We’re not so different from you. Stop pretending otherwise. We’re all human and we’re all part of a global civilization.
Wow. First, no I’m not trolling. But we have a bit more open view in Europe. You’ve just got all corporate control with a lot of propaganda in the US. If you’re open to it, I invite you on research on countries with more than 2 (and even almost identical) parties and without backing of the rich.
Yes I might be off about your spectrum, but the last deeper research I read was that over the decades your two right wing options narrowed down even more and by now they’re indistinguishable (for the common folk. Of course it would be better not to have trump but you have more political issues than that).
Considering our political spectrum includes both democratic socialists that model their politics off of European leftist examples and actual communists who think China is a good model to follow, I’m pretty sure you don’t know what you’re talking about.
OK name one party on the left that you could vote and would count?
I am only aware of dem and rep.
And then compare it to 5 parties like this https://www.bundestag.de/parlament/plenum/sitzverteilung
So now I gave examples. Show me where you think there’s more than one or two parties being on the right side.
Wait, let me rephrase that. Please help me understand what I am missing, honestly. There’s just two parties who have any chance.
Political spectrum isn’t just about political parties. The two parties in the US don’t represent the full spectrum of political opinions in the country. If you want to understand that, you’re going to have to dig deeper.
OK, I think we don’t understand each other because the spectrum is not represented (to the voter) at all in the US and you can only choose between two parties on the right. If you ignore that it’s not me needing research.
Look. I linked you the German parliament. We vote parties in there and they’re actively participating in the law making process there. They’re on our voting ballots.
Please tell me how you can vote for anyone else than dem and rep in the US. That was what I was talking about. Since (afaik) that is not possible you only have access to get a right party into the legislation.
And also to be clear this is not about looking down on the US. We have other huge issues here, too.
If you vote Democratic, you’re getting a far better version of leftist politics than the GOP. No, it’s not ideal leftist politics, because Dems are still beholden to US megacorps, and that is definitely a problem. But you can’t assert that because voting options are limited, political will is restricted to those options. The U.S. is undergoing a major political problem right now, which may well result in the dissolution of both parties and a broader multi-party system. You can’t just point to a country’s political parties and say, “well, they have only those two options, so they’re locked in forever, and those two options represent the entire country’s political will.” That’s ridiculous. There’s much to be said about the rise of far right politics in Europe right now, but you wouldn’t endorse opinions that the EU is trapped between far-left and far-right politics, would you? No, most people have views that register in-between. The same is true in America. We’re not so different from you. Stop pretending otherwise. We’re all human and we’re all part of a global civilization.