• Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 days ago

    Everyone should be degoogling their devices before malware gets installed by an update. Get rid of windows while you’re at it. This may take time, so start now.

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      Running Linux since 2019. ;)

      Getting rid of gapps on my phone will take some more tinkering, since certain apps that required to get by in my society rely on Play Services. But I’m getting there!

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      Last I saw, Jolla isn’t targeting the US markets. I was so sad! I really want one, it looks like a great phone. I’m gonna put in a reminder to check on them every few months to see if that changes.

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        Despite not targetting the USA market, the newly annunced Jolla Phone is reportedly very global and will support roaming in the USA, meaning it will probably be compatible.

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          18 hours ago

          I’ll definitely check back in to see which carriers they support once they release then.

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            On the sale page for the phone the two last questions of the FAQ address this, check them out.

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      Nice! Especially the Liberux, as it seems like it’s going to have “jailed” Android for apps that need that environment. Maybe that’s similar to what Graphene does with their sandboxed Google Play Services?

      If my Samsung is shot (and shut) down during this year, I’m leaning toward a Liberux, Jolla or a Fairphone with Ubuntu Touch, in that order.

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    Google doesn’t sell any devices that run OneUI, which makes your post somewhat disingenuous… and strengthens your point. You bought the device from Samsung, so you are even more right to be news at what Google is doing since you are not Google’s customer.

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      The ironic thing is that Samsung is even worse than Google for users’ rights, and has been for a long time.

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        That’s crazy. I don’t doubt it… but all I have to go on is, last year or the year before, my wife’s Galaxy S22 said they were changing the terms of the health app. They were going to market the user data to be sold, and you had to opt in by a certain date. If you did not, they deleted all your past data and froze the app until you agreed, at which point it would start anew. She did not agree, so her health data was wiped and she doesn’t get the health features anymore. Any of them. If she tries to open the app, it offers the choice of agreeing to the terms or exiting the app.

        Google just collects your data and sells it regardless, and they do it on phones they don’t sell. The reason they give Apple billions of dollars yearly is so they can do in on iPhones to an extent, too. They can only get so much, but they take what they can get.

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          The main difference I had in mind is that Google devices let you root and erase them to run stuff like Lineage OS or Graphene OS, and Samsung devices don’t.

          (Samsung also puts ads on their TVs and deliberately and blatantly designes their appliances to fail just outside warranty. I will never buy anything from that company again, with the possible exception of components like RAM ICs that get incorporated into some other brand’s product. But even then I’ll try to check for and avoid it because that’s the level of petty revenge Samsung deserves!)

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            I’m not saying Samsung TVs aren’t trash, but all Android-based TVs kind of are. I have one, by Hisense. The best thing to do with any smart TV, even if you’re not an Apple guy, is plug an Apple TV up to it. Swallow your pride and just fucking buy one. Okay, so you have to sign up for an Apple account (totally free) to use the App Store, but when you’re done setting the thing up… It’s just rows of apps. Shove all the shit Apple apps in a folder and stick it at the end. Some of them don’t even work. I make no excuses for them. But stuff like YouTube, Netflix, Plex, whatever you stream off of, you put on the top shelf (the dock, but it’s on top rather than on bottom like on iPhone, iPad, and Mac). The only real benefit I get as an Apple guy is, I have a remote built into my iPhone, and my Watch. Other than that… the remote is serviceable, and if you enable HDMI-CEC, you can use your TV’s remote with it as well. It’s like $100, maybe $130 for the top model with double the storage (really not needed) and I think it has Ethernet? I dunno, WiFi works for me. Anyway… No ads! It’s just a stupidly simple box. It’s what smart TVs really should be.

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      It’s like on my old Nvidia SHIELD, an update rolled in and all of a sudden there are ads on the homepage. Some people were ok with TV/movie ads being on a TV/movie device, but, why the hell would I want ads for content only available on services that I don’t have? If they’d at least only given me ads for the services it knew I was subscribed to, I would have at least been less pissed off since it could have been useful.

      Reached out to Nvidia and they say there isn’t anything they can do, it’s built that way by Google. By no means do I just blindly accept that that was accurate, but, it’s still bullshit that with a basic update all of a sudden the nature of my device was completely changed (imo) and I’m expected to just suck it up or work around it with 3rd party launchers that weren’t as polished.

      Dunno if it’s gotten better/worse in the last couple years, mine died and I elected to not replace it with another Android device.

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      I agree, I tried to shove two themes into one. Samsung’s decision to disable bootloader unlocking from OneUI 8 just kind of puts more weight on Google’s decision on disallowing unauthenticated apks. For Samsung users, that is.

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      In my country, that’s a hard bargain, as we need certain apps that rely on gapps to identify ourselves in formal dealings with nation, county and city actors. But yeah, Graphene’s sandboxed Google Play Services would be a good start for me.

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        Yeah, just install GrapheneOS, set up your initial profile without anything Google, then configure the secondary profile with GMS and everything else you need to run with Google on it.

        That’s how I have both phones, and I only visit the profile with Google services if I absolutely need to. Once dine, I log out that user until I need it again.

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        4 days ago

        I highly doubt a smartphone is a requirement. They probably have an alternative you’re not considering

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          4 days ago

          The general attitude is that you are required to be digitally literate and that you have the “required” equipment. Just like many businesses nowadays take it for granted that you have a card to pay with.

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    Just switch to Pixel. I’ve got mine (9a) for around 500€.