• MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    What im hearing is that if we want those things sooner and at a reasonable price, we should do anything and everything possible to pop the AI bubble.

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      16 hours ago

      I admire your optimism, but I think this will get used as leverage for a push to cloud gaming. The end goal is for us to own nothing.

      Edit: Spelling

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        16 hours ago

        I admire your optimism, but I think this will get used as leverage for a push to cloud gaming. The end goal is for is to own nothing.

        They’re certainly welcome to attempt selling that to me.

        They won’t like the outcome, but that’s more of a them problem.

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          16 hours ago

          We’ll see. I hope you’re right. Similar tactics in the housing market have created situations in which rent is cheaper than mortgage payments, which is a bad portent.

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            16 hours ago

            I mean, I’ve already got a backlog of 100+ Steam and GOG games I haven’t played yet, plus something like 1000+ retro game ROMs, and I’m happy to go digging in the crates as it were. There are already more games available than I’ll have time to play in my lifetime.

            They push cloud gaming and I go fuck off entirely.

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        16 hours ago

        GeForce Now performs well but it’s already seeing further limits put in place. Gamepass already saw price hikes. Amazon Luna has a terribly small library. Smaller players have to buy GPUs, memory, and processor’s too and contend with AI data center induced rising power costs. Plus data center location matters a huge amount and that’s still a work in progress for game streaming services and a lot of the world

        Plus my Internet throttles after like 1.5TB a month. Fine for ~15mbps Netflix. Not so good for ~100mbps game streaming. Others have data caps or overage fees. There certainly are those with uncapped/unthrottled internet. I wish my neighborhood had that

        Game streaming is going mainstream going to get worse short term too. Mostly pricing and worse usage limits

        A midrange phone these days are power competitive with a PS4. Makes more sense for Steam’s future support android APKs because of the Steam Frame to make way for Steam to be an Android game store and devs target Switch-PS4 hardware on the low end and PS5 mid/high end. Don’t even entertain the idea of a PS6 level min requirements game for a game releasing this decade. Probably not even for the first half of the 2030s

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          13 hours ago

          I haven’t ever used game streaming, is it seriously that latency-free that it’s worth it? I just can’t imagine that.

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            Depends on how close you are to the server and your Internet connection. For me when my Internet isn’t having a bad day, the latency is good even for twitchy shooting games. I wouldn’t rely on it for a competitive game full match length, but anything single player is good. Pretty much anything that isn’t super fast paced twitchy is good. GeForce Now is how I first tried Cyberpunk path tracing. Worked great

            I remember trying out games on GeForce Now, Gamepass, and Luna around the same time. GeForce Now and Luna latency wasn’t a problem for me. Gamepass was frequently really bad

            I’m not subscribed to anything anymore. Just wanted to try them out. Only when there’s a deal. Forgot to subscribe for one month 50% last month so I’ll wait again. Probably a summer month when I want to game but not use my desktop

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              9 hours ago

              Interesting. I have 5gbps fiber so I wonder if it’d be good. I’m just struggling to understand how it could be, lol. I don’t really game anymore though. Thanks for the reply!

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            11 hours ago

            Depending on location. Same city 3 years ago no data cap. Current neighborhood first had a data cap that had overage fees or pay an extra $50 a month for uncapped. Now with a service provider that does throttling after a point during congestion

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        16 hours ago

        Well the pop would only cause more issues like lack of funds for anyone to even afford one of those things.

        Possibly, but this doesn’t diminish my desire for that bubble to pop sooner rather than later.