Tell me you know nothing about the €U or don’t actually care about it being a (neo-)imperialist/colonialist block of financial capital, without telling me…
The current EU is neolib/colonialist for sure, but you can say the same about every european country in the meme. We need to change every single one of them or we just change the EU.
Of course you can always be a good radical leftist calling for revolution — this way you don’t need any governmental structure you rely on. That is fine. Who doesn’t love to see the world burn?
What I don’t understand with this approach: Every society needs structures and nobody can build everything from scratch in this day and age.
I would like to see it from another perspective.
The workers movement always was international.
Rosa Luxemburg proposed a system to create a better society by implementing so called non-reformist reforms. These reforms are not your typical soc-dem reforms that please bourgeois people. They are build in a way that takes society a step further. I would love to see non-reformist reforms of the EU. Making it more social, breaking neoliberal and colonialist policies.
Yeah, nah, my point was about how no eu wouldn’t be better for these countries because that’s what russia wants, and there is so many benefits to working together like that. Then you “whatabout” with something that has nothing to do with what I said. Im happy to see you recognize your are a clown though! First step is admitting it
no eu wouldn’t be better for these countries because that’s what russia wants
Citation needed. Also: The US would prefer it like that, as well. That’s the reason why the EU bends over backwards as to not piss off the so-called US too much.
Then you “whatabout”
You kinda started the whataboutism by invoking big, scary Russia.
Citation needed. Also: The US would prefer it like that, as well. That’s the reason why the EU bends over backwards as to not piss off the so-called US too much.
Are you implying that there is less strength in numbers via resource pooling?
Only under the current administration does the US overtly not want the EU, due to trumps russian ties. He is acting on their behalf.
You kinda started the whataboutism by invoking big, scary Russia
What? Not at all, russia doesn’t want the EU because its a power block that can effectively oppose them…
You started mentioning Russia. That’s whataboutism.
You should probably make an effort to learn what whataboutism actually is before attempting to call it out. How can one ever make any argument without mentioning the valid points and supporting reasoning for the argument?
Claiming that the EU provides strength to oppose Russia is not an example of whataboutism. Whataboutism involves using a counter-accusation to defend against an accusation. eg: “You’re accusing me of stealing a cookie from the cookie jar? What about the time that you ate my last yogurt cup in the fridge!”
Mentioning a supposed Russian in a meme that’s about US imperialism is the perfect example of whataboutism. Or at least it’s a thought-terminating cliche.
It’s crazy how in terms of comments it’s actually more of a c/shitlibmemes TwT
But I fear the backlash of removing lib comments TBH. (And I don’t want to seem petty or like those things are personal and TBH I am libbaiting with a passion)
Also properly weighing them and so on would likely be a 24/7 effort /hj
Like I legit don’t get why those people are here and are getting angry over and over again at just basic socialist positions
Yeah it’s not even something controversial in terms of inner-socialist disagreements but just complete basics of “don’t identify with the interests of the bourgeois state and its geopolitical institutions of power”
PS
Everytime i try to send you a DM or connect on matrix my lemmy client (jerboa) crashes for unknown reasons :/. If you want to connect you’ll have to send me a DM with your contact info
Tell me you know nothing about the €U or don’t actually care about it being a (neo-)imperialist/colonialist block of financial capital, without telling me…
Your post was a perfect example of how little you know
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Sorry for being actually leftist on a leftist com LMAOOO 🤡🤡🤡
The current EU is neolib/colonialist for sure, but you can say the same about every european country in the meme. We need to change every single one of them or we just change the EU.
Of course you can always be a good radical leftist calling for revolution — this way you don’t need any governmental structure you rely on. That is fine. Who doesn’t love to see the world burn?
What I don’t understand with this approach: Every society needs structures and nobody can build everything from scratch in this day and age.
I would like to see it from another perspective. The workers movement always was international. Rosa Luxemburg proposed a system to create a better society by implementing so called non-reformist reforms. These reforms are not your typical soc-dem reforms that please bourgeois people. They are build in a way that takes society a step further. I would love to see non-reformist reforms of the EU. Making it more social, breaking neoliberal and colonialist policies.
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Yeah, nah, my point was about how no eu wouldn’t be better for these countries because that’s what russia wants, and there is so many benefits to working together like that. Then you “whatabout” with something that has nothing to do with what I said. Im happy to see you recognize your are a clown though! First step is admitting it
Citation needed. Also: The US would prefer it like that, as well. That’s the reason why the EU bends over backwards as to not piss off the so-called US too much.
You kinda started the whataboutism by invoking big, scary Russia.
Are you implying that there is less strength in numbers via resource pooling?
Only under the current administration does the US overtly not want the EU, due to trumps russian ties. He is acting on their behalf.
What? Not at all, russia doesn’t want the EU because its a power block that can effectively oppose them…
I’m implying that you’re pulling the supposed interests of Russia out of ass.
Wow. The conspiracy theories get wilder and wilder every minute with you, huh?
You started mentioning Russia. That’s whataboutism.
👏citation👏needed👏
lol. That’s why Ukraine is losing the war, right? /s
Oh boy, well, when you join the the real world let me know and then we can talk. Have a great life
Yeah, sure. I’m the one that’s delusional.
Ukraine is totally winning the war right now and Europe could easily take Russia in a war. The toothfairy told me so.
/s
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You should probably make an effort to learn what whataboutism actually is before attempting to call it out. How can one ever make any argument without mentioning the valid points and supporting reasoning for the argument?
Claiming that the EU provides strength to oppose Russia is not an example of whataboutism. Whataboutism involves using a counter-accusation to defend against an accusation. eg: “You’re accusing me of stealing a cookie from the cookie jar? What about the time that you ate my last yogurt cup in the fridge!”
Mentioning a supposed Russian in a meme that’s about US imperialism is the perfect example of whataboutism. Or at least it’s a thought-terminating cliche.
Average lib brain on evronationalism
Lol ok. If that makes you feel better about yourself
You’ve gone so left you circled back to rugged individualism, lol
Blud doesn’t even know what they talking about, philosophy major right here 🤯🤯🤯
It’s hilarious. The people making the memes are usually top tier but the comments are filled with clowns. It’s wild.
It’s crazy how in terms of comments it’s actually more of a c/shitlibmemes TwT
But I fear the backlash of removing lib comments TBH. (And I don’t want to seem petty or like those things are personal and TBH I am libbaiting with a passion)
Also properly weighing them and so on would likely be a 24/7 effort /hj
Like I legit don’t get why those people are here and are getting angry over and over again at just basic socialist positions
Yeah it’s not even something controversial in terms of inner-socialist disagreements but just complete basics of “don’t identify with the interests of the bourgeois state and its geopolitical institutions of power”
PS
Everytime i try to send you a DM or connect on matrix my lemmy client (jerboa) crashes for unknown reasons :/. If you want to connect you’ll have to send me a DM with your contact info