So now we can add “directly capturing a sovereign leader” to the list of crap the US has done. So what do you think will actually be “the straw that broke the camels back” for world leaders to actually do something? Think it’ll be significant or something mundane?
This isn’t the first time the US has done
No, this is different and completely unprecedented.
We went into a foreign country, abducted their leader, and brought him back to America to be tried under our justice system for laws he was never subject to for crimes he almost had nothing to do with.
I’d love to see a source for America abducting the leader of a country we’re not at war with, and bringing them to America for trial.
Ok I’ll bite: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_invasion_of_Panama
While the above poster is missing the particulars, this still is unprecedented - panama and the US were at war, and Noriega surrendered to US forces before being taken to the US. As far as I’m aware, brazen kidnapping like just happened with Maduro really is a new low for the US.
That was an invasion, not a kidnapping.
The first hint is the situation was called “invasion of Panama”
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I think we did that to Hawaii. And now it’s a state.
Nah, Hawaii was an invasion, I believe the Queen was travelling to DC.
She left Hawaii as a queen and when she got to Hawaii to negotiate a treaty, she was told Hawaii was already an American territory
The close enough for me. Going in to countries and fucking about then leaving them worse is kinda what we do unfortunately. Well I guess it’s what all countries who can do as well.
When you get the time it’s worth reading up on, super interesting and I’m surprised there hasn’t been a big movie about it despite America being the bad guys.
I listened to a podcast or two about it but it was a while ago.
Noriega
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/world/4400241/maduro-abduction-coincides-anniversary-noriega-raid/
Can we do better than the rightwing rag, The Washington Examiner?
Probably but I’m not putting a lot of effort into shit nobody ultimately cares about
That’s an invasion, not a kidnapping…
…You think this is over?
What are you talking about?
There’s no American troops there now.
If you’re arguing there’s going to be a response or separate action in the future, yes…
That’s how time works, there’s always something happen, obviously something will happen next
Don’t read much, do you?
Importantly other countries aren’t that mad about it either. I saw some posts about Trump making comments that seemed to suggest that mexico and canada could be targeted in the future for intervention related to drugs, so I went to canadian news sites to see what was up. The canadian government is basically like, “I’m not angry, I’m disappointed” and mostly because it goes against the norms of polite imperialism.
I won’t link to her twitter account, but here is the statement:
Alt text:
The Hon. Anita Anand Minister of Foreign Affairs
Since 2019, when Canada closed its embassy in Venezuela, we have refused to recognize any legitimacy of the Maduro regime and opposed its repression of the Venezuelan people, including the persecution of dissenters and particularly political leaders opposed to the regime.
In keeping with our long-standing commitment to upholding the rule of law and democracy, Canada calls on all parties to respect international law and we stand by the people of Venezuela and their desire to live in a peaceful and democratic society.
Canada is engaging with its international partners and monitoring developments closely.
Canada stands ready to assist Canadians in need through our consular officials and embassy in Bogotá, Colombia.
I think it’s the first time they do it without international support.
Yeah but it has been quite uneventful for 50 years, for what I know.