“When a man and woman love each other very much…”. Love is NOT a necessary prerequisite to sex

  • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Maybe what you say is true for sociopaths. And apparently the world is full of them.

    But I for one could not get naked with anybody unless I love them. I love several people.

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        1 day ago

        No, I’m pretty sure that people who use each other for solely selfish purposes is a primary symptom of sociopathy.

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          1 day ago

          Thus hiring someone to fix your plumbing or do your yard work is sociopathy?

          Also two people can have mutually enjoyable sex without “love”.

          You’ve got a weird take.

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            Hiring someone to fix your plumbing is an exchange of goods and services for money. If you think that has any similarities to sex then maybe you are more familiar with prostitutes than you are with love.

            I hate to break it to you but people who like to have sex with each other on a regular basis without exchanging money or other favors, they probably love each other but they’re so scared of the word love because for some reason in recent decades the word love has been become taboo.

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              6 hours ago

              You deleted your other reply I already replied to, so I’m pasting what I wrote here:

              You’re shifting the topic. You said,

              No, I’m pretty sure that people who use each other for solely selfish purposes is a primary symptom of sociopathy

              Note this claim isn’t about sex. It’s a broad claim that any circumstances where one party uses another for selfish purpose is sociopathy.

              Since getting someone to fix a clogged toilet is using someone for selfish purposes, your claim would make that sociopathy. I think that’s absurd, and thus your claim is false.

              I hate to break it to you but people who like to have sex with each other on a regular basis without exchanging money or other favors, they probably love each other but they’re so scared of the word love because for some reason in recent decades the word love has been become taboo.

              Citations needed. You just made this up and I see no reason to take your word for it that people are scared of the word love, nor that love has become taboo. Furthermore, many people have regular sex without feeling love.

              You’re taking your world view and beliefs and claiming they’re far more universal than they are.

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                5 hours ago

                Would you fuck somebody who was utterly repulsive to you, unattractive, horrible personality, and you hate them? No, probably not. You fuck people you love. If the word “love” scares you then that’s your problem. Sex is the ultimate consummation of attraction and love.

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                  There’s a wide range of options between utterly repulsive and loved. That’s a huge excluded middle. Do you think people don’t fuck on the first date?

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              6 hours ago

              You’re shifting the topic. You said,

              No, I’m pretty sure that people who use each other for solely selfish purposes is a primary symptom of sociopathy

              Note this claim isn’t about sex. It’s a broad claim that any circumstances where one party uses another for selfish purpose is sociopathy.

              Since getting someone to fix a clogged toilet is using someone for selfish purposes, your claim would make that sociopathy. I think that’s absurd, and thus your claim is false.

              Edit: person I replied to deleted their message, so I reposted this where they reposted.

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                5 hours ago

                Do you not pay your plumbers money?

                “Using someone for selfish purposes” means that you are getting something from them without paying them money.

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                  5 hours ago

                  Not the building super, nor my friend when she came by with a drain snake that one time.

                  Or, to use an example that’s not trying so hard to be a pun: you go down to the local rec center to find a pickup game of basketball or whatever. No one’s paying anyone. You go, find a game, have a good time, and leave. Maybe see each other again. Maybe not. Is that sociopathy?

        • essell@lemmy.world
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          No, it isn’t. Only in online pop psychology.

          And it’s not what’s happening for the people involved either.

          This ain’t Sunday school 🤣