On Digg there’s some drama because someone registered the community “/wallstreetbets,” and the admins took it from him and gave it to one mod of the subreddit “r/wallstreetbets.”

One day later I see this discussion about how Reddit registered trademarks for some high-profile subreddits.

This could be relevant for the Threadiverse.

  • CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Wait, Digg gave the community to a Reddit moderator so Reddit could control the communities with the same name on both platforms? That’s wild.

    That’s also how the corporate side of Reddit works. Someone will register a subreddit, and then a bunch of related ones, so anybody who tries to use any of them has to follow the same set of rules — and if you piss off the wrong person in one, they can ban you from all of them. They can also use their “first” or “official” or even “user count” status to bully smaller subs into redirecting to them. Effectively centralising information.

    The Fediverse doesn’t work like that. While the Reddit mods who wish to consolidate power across networks might target lemmy.world, they can’t get all the instances, and they probably won’t try. They’ll just go after the big one, or the big two or three. Some instances will flip them the bird, like I imagine db0 won’t stand for that shit.

    Then you will see instances advertising “free speech” as a feature. The question is which will users flock to? The official one, or the free one? But that’s always been the question of Lemmy. You can go on Reddit and toe the line and say paedophiles are people who deserve all the good things in life and keep your account, but if you try to be genuine, they kick you off and make the choice for you.

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      Someone will register a subreddit, and then a bunch of related ones, so anybody who tries to use any of them has to follow the same set of rules — and if you piss off the wrong person in one, they can ban you from all of them.

      This definitely happens here on Lemme, too. There are asshole mods, here who register a ton of communities, and getting banned from one of them instantly means you’re banned from all of them. Possibly even the entire instance. I’ve seen this in the mod logs where someone has a relatively innocuous comment removed just because the mod disagrees with them, then they are suddenly banned from both that community and 10 or 12 other communities. All run by the same moderator.

      If you think you escaped asshole mods just because you’re switched over here to Lemmy, think again.

      From StumbleUpon to fark to digg to Reddit to Lemmy… Asshole, power-tripping mods are everywhere and aren’t going away.

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          well, the .ml mods never seem to be the “power-tripping” type of asshole. they would argue and were combative and were definitely assholes, but they didn’t seem to quick to ban people.

          The major objection (and why most people left) was because of the explicit political views of the Admins (who also are the main devs for the Lemmy software) and the rampant intolerance of other views by not only them, but the other users of that instance. I ran into users on .ml that were soooo far worse than the shittiest assholes I ever encountered of Reddit or Digg. It’s part of why I’ve switched to PieFed.

          Lemmy does help mitigate this by giving the wider community the ability to sort of sequester the trouble-makers and to easily block them.

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            But also when they would ban someone, they would do so from every single community on their instance, including ones that you’ve never even heard of.

            And then never bother to so much as tell you about your being banned.

            And also deny you the ability to appeal or ask questions - e.g. Reddit has both a modmail and the ability to continue discourse directly in a post that has been removed from a community listing. Which as a former mod I would use to communicate rejection reasons and sometimes we’d go back and forth for days talking about the subject further, e.g. ways that the newcommer could modify it as to not piss off the old hands in the community (e.g. NSFW is allowed but must be properly labeled or some such).

            Oh, and soon a change is going to give lemmy.ml veto power on what communities are allowed to be suggested to new instances - and being baked right into the code so there is no way to change that - rather than use a third-party listing. Edit: this proposed change has already been walked back, and while still using a centralized source for that information, at least makes it configurable by the new instance admin rather than hard-coding lemmy.ml as the singular authority (except as the default option).

            I find it highly ironic that in some ways Lemmy, in particular .ml, is more authoritarian than even Reddit.

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            .ml mods are exactly the type to ban people from every community because they don’t share the exact same viewpoints as the mod in question.

            dbzer0 is getting almost as bad with certain admin and certain topics now too.