• BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
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        It’s nothing personal, but I hate Cinnamon. I do not agree with their philosophy at all. They want to be “familiar” but that means they are trapped using outdated Windows 98 conventions while being late to the Wayland party and offering significantly less customization than KDE. When I see people recommend Cinnamon over KDE, I downvote. If you personally prefer it’s 1999 style and conventions then you keep doing you, but it’s not objectively better than KDE in any way and I do not think we should be driving new Linux users toward it.

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          It seems like a way to help old fucks like me - who have never used anything but Windows and hate anything new and still bitch about the windows key - learn how to use Linux without throwing up our hands and going back to Windows 11. I am planning to use Mint, and Cinnamon, when I nuke my desktop’s Windows installation, because I’m just too goddamn tired to learn too many new things at a time and I liked Windows 98.

          Is Cinnamon still a good idea for me, even though it does not sound like a good idea for people still able to form new neuronal connections?

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            Give it a try.

            You could also look into creating a Ventoy thumb drive so you can try multiple distros without installing them. Most linux distros can be run “live” straight from an ISO, and Ventoy lets you boot directly into any ISO you copy onto a thumb drive. It’s an quick, easy, no-commitment way to try a few things out and see what feels good to you.

  • Is there a GUI environment that will turn my desktop into the stupid, goofy virtual reality space a lot of movies in the 90s showed off as being “the future of computing?” 🤔

    I want to build a computer that just mimics the stupid hollywood vision of computers from that time because it would be fun and make me laugh.

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        For me KDE6 has broken workspaces and thag is unacceptable. Gnome just works (after installing 20 extensions)

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          I haven’t had any issues. Are you conflating the switch from X11 to Wayland with Workspaces, or do you have a problem with the multi-monitor support in 6.6?

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            I have no idea. I just dipped my toes into KDE again this weekend. This isn’t going to sound good for Gnome but a gdm3 update on debian sid broke it. Needed a desktop so i tried KDE again. Everything i can find seems to indicate I should be able to switch desktops by holding super and scrolling or hitting a number but i can’t. I can get to workspaces if i move cursor to top left. Though those might be something called “activites” since they are sandboxes from each other.

            Other than that I have KDE on steamdeck and “steam machine” connected to tv and its fine because i rarely use it for anything other than web browsing anything else I need to do on those are more easily done via ssh. I’ve never attempted to use workspaces on either since they are more gaming/video devices for me.

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              Oh! The setting you are looking for is called “Virtual Desktops.” They aren’t created dynamically, but are meant to be created and configured for different workflows so they are always there. You just need to add some!

              Add new ones from System Settings / Virtual Desktops. Once you have some created, you will have a grid of desktops you can switch between using Super + Ctrl + Arrows or by using the Pager widget.

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    I’ve been using Mint Cinnamon for years and after having used Plasma on a number of different setups Mint feels so antiquated. It’s not even close, Plasma is far superior. It’s so much more modern and snappy feeling and you can do so much more with it if you want. Cinnamon makes you have to figure to look in applet settings to then find the setting to modify the start menu. So unintuitive. Among a bunch of other examples I could give

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      This is why when people tell me that Linux Mint is user-friendly, I usually assume they don’t use it themselves.

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        I use Mint, it’s the only distro I’ve used for a significant period of time, it works just fine for me

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          It does work just fine and that’s okay. One feature that’s killer on Plasma is auto theme switching (and night light which they both have) so you don’t burn your eyes out after dark. Would be sweet if Mint had this feature too

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        Been using cinnamon for a couple years and I’m happy with it, although I don’t spend much time on my computer. Been recommending it as well since I don’t know any better. What’s the most user friendly distro you would recommend ?

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          If you also game, Bazzite.

          You have to go out of your way to accidentally break it, and drivers just work. Flatpaks are easy for people to install.

          Otherwise, of your hardware does have issues with Fedora for any reason, Debian. It’s more stable than Mint.

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      The default theme could be better but you can customise a lot of it. Or you can wait for the current trend of rounded borders to end and KDE will be ahead of the curve.

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      I’m the same. I like the workflow of Plasma, I just find it more practical, but Gnome actually feels like an OS made this century. All the KDE software just feels like it was made in the early 00s and since then it’s just been getting hotfixes to keep it going. I wish they’d just abandon a bunch of their projects and stop spreading themselves so thin.

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        GNOME apps to me all few like tech demos that look cool but aren’t very useful because there will always be a deal breaker of a missinf feature or behavior you can’t change

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        There is something about the slightly bad kerning of QT that gives KDE a vaguely Windows 95 feel. Especially when you start installing extensions that make no attempt to resemble each other; there is nothing I can do to make my CPU temperature meter and my system clock look like they belong on the same computer.

        Gnome on the other hand feels like MacOS with meningitis. It’s designed to look nice, but not necessarily do anything.

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          KDE started by emulating the looks and mechanics of Windows, but with even more busy lists and dialogs. While Gnome 2 was very obviously stealing from MacOS.

          I still can’t bring myself to try KDE again, after having been traumatized by it twenty years ago.

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            It cuts even deeper than that. KDE took Microsoft’s philosophy to the extreme, didn’t abandon projects that crashed and burned under Windows, and somehow at long last made many things work.

            Explorer was supposed to be an everything-browser. Didn’t work out. Microsoft gave up and made a file explorer and separate Internet Explorer. Meanwhile, KDE made Konqueror with KHTML that browsed everything – sftp, samba, websites, open any file within any Konqueror pane, split your view horizontally and vertically as many times as you god damn like. It was really fucking weird until you got used to it. KHTML went on to become WebKit then Blink; Internet Explorer went on to become a wrapper for Blink.

            Windows 98 wanted to put HTML on your desktop as applets or gadgets or whatever. Didn’t work. Sucked. Huge resource hog too. Got abandoned for the next ambitious Microsoft project that they never follow through on. Meanwhile that’s exactly how Plasma works, and it rules.

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        this being possible is madness. And I’m not sure, but I think it would look better with a bit more padding by default. (Less than gnome though)