If you can accept the reality of gender dysphoria, then it is reasonable to address how that condition is best treated. The consequences of not treating can be lethal via suicide so this is not an idle question. If transitioning makes the difference between life or death (or chronic substantial depression) then arguably encouraging this affected people to “be trans” is the right thing to do. Sorry if it hurts your feeling but that’s the reality of it.
While, since you looooove semantics so much, I’m sure it happens that some people coming suicide after transitioning it is, to my understanding FAR less than the baseline, also you need to show that suicide is the result of transitioning, and not anti trans people bullying and harassing them, for the crime of being who they are.
They (probably) exist but are fewer than those that that kill themselves because they can’t transition. Also the regret rates at least for gender affirming surgeries (I don’t think I can generalize any further without weird exceptions and further research) are significantly lower than all other surgeries.
No I didn’t say that. I said that more people benefit from having the choice of recieving trans healthcare than regret, let alone decide to kill themselves because of it.
The way I understand your argument is that because a few people have negative effects from choosing to do something that has a positive effect on a lot of others the ability to prepare for it should be restricted to people until later in life when some important benefits are lost.
The only gender affirming healthcare given to people under the age of 18 years is puberty blockers which only delay the effects of puberty and cause negligible long term effects (this is an assumption, I have not heard of any long term effects of puberty blockers but I assume there are some). Why would people who regret transitioning be a reason to stop that?
My previous comment was explaining why the option of medical transitions for adults should be available. It benefits those who need it. One can’t help those who transition medically and regret it far beyond attempting to reverse it. We can however try to avoid those situations by giving better them better education about transitioning.
Just because surgeries/games can go wrong doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be allowed as a way to help people or make them happier.
If you can accept the reality of gender dysphoria, then it is reasonable to address how that condition is best treated. The consequences of not treating can be lethal via suicide so this is not an idle question. If transitioning makes the difference between life or death (or chronic substantial depression) then arguably encouraging this affected people to “be trans” is the right thing to do. Sorry if it hurts your feeling but that’s the reality of it.
What about those that kill themselves after transitioning because they regret it?
My feelings are fine, but I think you’re ignoring the part of reality that goes against your agenda.
Please show your home work.
https://www.newsweek.com/what-data-shows-about-transgender-detransition-regret-1807448
While, since you looooove semantics so much, I’m sure it happens that some people coming suicide after transitioning it is, to my understanding FAR less than the baseline, also you need to show that suicide is the result of transitioning, and not anti trans people bullying and harassing them, for the crime of being who they are.
So… what about those that kill themselves after transitioning because they regret it?
Are you trying to argue they don’t matter because they’re a minority?
Re read what I wrote please. Also don’t straw man, show your homework. C’mon do better.
You’re never going to answer this because you know it defeats your argument.
I’ll just take this as your surrender and we can move on with our lives.
You may have the last word, I can tell you’re desperate for it.
Awww you can’t back up your statement? Shocker! Sad.
They (probably) exist but are fewer than those that that kill themselves because they can’t transition. Also the regret rates at least for gender affirming surgeries (I don’t think I can generalize any further without weird exceptions and further research) are significantly lower than all other surgeries.
So, the people who kill themselves because they regret transitioning don’t matter because they’re a minority?
Same rhetoric republicans would use to justify hate for any marginalized people.
No I didn’t say that. I said that more people benefit from having the choice of recieving trans healthcare than regret, let alone decide to kill themselves because of it.
The way I understand your argument is that because a few people have negative effects from choosing to do something that has a positive effect on a lot of others the ability to prepare for it should be restricted to people until later in life when some important benefits are lost.
The only gender affirming healthcare given to people under the age of 18 years is puberty blockers which only delay the effects of puberty and cause negligible long term effects (this is an assumption, I have not heard of any long term effects of puberty blockers but I assume there are some). Why would people who regret transitioning be a reason to stop that?
My previous comment was explaining why the option of medical transitions for adults should be available. It benefits those who need it. One can’t help those who transition medically and regret it far beyond attempting to reverse it. We can however try to avoid those situations by giving better them better education about transitioning.
Just because surgeries/games can go wrong doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be allowed as a way to help people or make them happier.