• anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 months ago

    Also they could have done some land reparations without stealing Palestinian land, if anyone gave a shit. Pretty sure one of the countries that lost the war had a place called Judenberg already, for example.

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      8 months ago

      Yep, I always thought a better idea for a state of Ashkenazi Jews would be to create it from pieces of Bavaria, Austria, maybe even a bit of Sudetes. Make it sort of a crossroads state, to minimize abuse by, ahem, any separate neighbor. Because immediately after WWII it would be weird to expect from Germans any kind of neighborly attitude.

      And the opportunity would be long lost, if not for the fact that Germans so fscking love their Holocaust apologies virtue signaling. They have themselves maintained what is required to make the matter relevant.

      I suggest resettling Israel to Passau. Yep, they may not have Haifa beaches, but they will have some Danube to look at.

      And it will be really funny, Germans are too obnoxious, observing the process will be very funny.

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      8 months ago

      Because Israel was always a colonialist project. The last one of a dead age. The people who like Israel think Thanksgiving was how settlers treated the Indigenous Americans.

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    8 months ago

    Yeah your grandparents being victims of the same shit doesn’t justify your actions, if anything it makes them worse since you should know better.

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    8 months ago

    Having grown up in evangelical Christianity, I don’t quite understand the attack on liberals here?

    Zionism is a major part for the conservative manifesto to create the New Jerusalem to bring forth the return of Jesus. Evangelicals view Jews as reluctant Christians yet to accept their king.

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      8 months ago

      Liberals support Israel because of Cold War propaganda labeling. That evolved into the good guys versus terrorism propaganda we have now, which blinded us to things like stealing land, the blockade, interfering in elections, and indefinite detainment without charges or trial. It was all hand waived because “terrorists”. But in reality it was the only way left for them to try to defend their sovereignty.

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      8 months ago

      It has been a political wedge issue used as a weapon by conservatives. Liberal buy-in to zionism is its primary support system.

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      8 months ago

      lefties love to hate on liberals for whatever reason. Even though the definition of liberal is not very specific and encompassing.

      I still haven’t quite figured out why. Idk if people just don’t broadly understand the definition of liberalism in a political context, or if it’s just “hurr durr not lefty bad” shenanigans.

      on another note, if anybody in the comments has any expansive explanation to this, please, indulge my curiosity.

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        8 months ago

        In the U.S., it’s from anger at the Democratic party. Mostly anger at, “when they go low, we go high,” “reach across the aisle,” “we need a strong Republican party,” tolerance paradox, and that kind of stuff. Liberal economics isn’t really compatible with leftism either.

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        8 months ago

        Liberals are right-winger in most of the world. Only backward countries like britain still have conservative. We had the intelligence of shooting them a long time ago,

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    8 months ago

    Reminds me of the idea of positive discrimination. Personally, if I knew someone hired me above an equally qualified candidate just because I belong to a minority group I would feel insecure about my abilities.

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      8 months ago

      What if they hired you only because you are part of a majority group? Or does this only matter if it’s someone in a minority being hired?

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        8 months ago

        Either of course. It just seems the former goes without saying and a large number of people support the latter.

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          I assure you far more people are hired because they’re not part of a minority group than because they are.

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    I mean English has three different words describing specifically persecuting Jewish populations with death.

    This is not 100 years Hitler blah blah … this is talking about 15 centuries of Christian oppression.

    Linguistically I’m still saying Jewish people need a safe space. And we, as nuclear Americans, call that safe space a fucking nation.