Join us in bringing order out of KAOS.
KAOS = Knowledge As Our Saviour
KAOS is a way for your voice to be heard about ANY current event. We primarily use our website for this endeavour. However, we also are willing to have good conversations here, whether it’s about AI, Government or international issues, We want your voice to be heard. There will be absolutely no Doxxing or CSAM allowed, regardless of location.
This is a sister account to r/KAOSnow on Reddit.
Help us get up and running, ask your questions or state your opinions, all we ask is that you are straight forward with what your opinion is about, otherwise than that, we censor nothing on our actual website, here on Lemmy I have to abide by the rules of the Instance I’m on.
ETA: Just because there is no censorship, within law, does not mean we do not have any moderation. Moderation does not mean censorship. Moderation is the process of making sure that rules are being followed as well as governmental laws.
from https://kaosnow.com/index.php/about-kaos
yeah good luck with that.
Why do you say that? KAOS is not a government entity, its not paid for by governement, it is not even a blip on the radar of the government, but that is because we are still very new. We haven’t made an impact that draws attention to us, YET.
As a private enterprise, we are not obligated to follow government regulations, within reason. Yes we are aware of the GDPR and we will definately censor/ban any illegal things such as doxxing and csam or similar. We aren’t even allowing photos to be uploaded. Mind you this is all on our website, not here on lemmy. Our Lemmy community WILL follow the rules of our instance at lemmy.zip
Absence of moderation is in itself a form of censorship.
There will be moderation to prevent obviously harmful activity such as doxxing and csam amongst others.
But I am curious how you see absence of moderation as a form of censorship. If you could post anything you want without any repercussions for what you post, aside from others that would downvote you or point out what they see as wrong in your post, how is that censorship? No one changes your post, except you. Once again, with the exception of the aforementioned examples, how is there censorhip?
Generally, you’re going to get targeted on a personal level. There are enough people out there who turn factual conversations into a personal level. Either they’re offended by your perspective or fundamentally opposed or just a*holes. And they’ll call you names, yell at you, gather their friends to do the same and follow you around and try to make your life miserable… And then you’re going to stop sharing your opinion openly. That’s what they mean with »it’s censorship« (as well). Because you’re going to be systematically silenced by that kind of behaviour. It’s bread and butter on the internet. Especially on platforms which include anonymity or pseudonymous accounts.
I won’t, they can bitch and moan all they want. It’s a them problem because they don’t want to hear the truth that disagrees with their standing.
They can yell, call me names or anything else. They want to dox me, let them it just shows how weak they really are.
I think you misunderstand the problem. You can do that, yes. But have you ever moderated a diverse group of people? They’re all very different. Some are bold and loud. Some aren’t. Some are introverted or quiet. Or you somehow need to make them feel comfortable and safe before they speak up at all. Some say the first thing that comes to mind and they talk a lot, and some aren’t even part of the conversation and as a moderator you need to make them speak up at the right moment, effectively silencing the other people, because then you’ll get their nuanced opinion and they used the time to really think it through.
I’ve managed some people in smaller groups over the time and I can tell you your approach just silences the interesting people. You won’t end up with all opinions that way. You get the opinion from the dominant people, mostly the perspective of the confident men amongst them and relatively simplistic ideas. And the result of the entire conversation just won’t be great that way.
Edit: That’s due to the nature of the conversation and the dynamics with people. Additionally you can’t even talk about some topics this way. If something is dear to me and complicated, I can’t let that become subject of ridicule and let people pick on it. That’d really hurt. So I won’t even bring it up.
Actually I have moderated this groups. I knew coming in Thai wouldn’t be easy, but I love a good challenge.
As. Said in another comment, people complain the loudest and are quiet when there is no complaint.
I agree, we need to get the quiet ones more involved. If you have any ideas that would help accomplish that I’m up to listening. You can even post that in the [email protected] community.
How do you figure? Not arguing, just interested.
@preussischblau @howrar The Nazi bar problem.
We are currently looking into that issue, it was something I brought up a few weeks ago. The question to answer is where is the line of intolerance and tolerance. Obviously we don’t want to encourage any hate speech or anything along that line. We also have a living constitution for KAOS so that amendments and such as can be added, which will be our institutions basis for administrative decisions as well as regulations and changes to the terms or service.