The fediverse used to feel pretty anti-ai, but over the past month or two I’ve noticed a LOT of generated memes and images, and they tend to have positive votes.

Has there been a sudden culture shift here? Or is there a substantial percentage of people just unable to tell the difference anymore?

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    Is that generative ai or machine learning? I really don’t have the same issue with machine learning

    Its not just llm’s, I find calling ai generated images “art” frankly offensive and demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of what art is and why it’s important to us as humans. But my issue is really just generative ai

    I don’t really think people have an issue with machine learning, it’s useful for all kinds of stuff, and doesn’t really come with the same ethical problems as best I’m aware, so I have no reason to complain about it.

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      AI is machine learning. It was just called “machine learning” before every C-suit had to try to sell it.

      I’m with you when it comes to shitty images, but there is interesting approaches too IMO, especially when they will get better, if they do. As for art, it’s just another tool in the toolbox. Painters treated photography similarly, and do you remember (if you’re old enough) when digital cameras became affordable and everyone and their grandma became “a photographer” and flooded the planet with soulless photos? I do 😅

      Art is art, no machine will change that, but maybe it will help people get into the arts, with the cost of a lot of slop ofc. Which is cool IMO.

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        Generative ai and machine learning are pretty broadly considered different if adjacent technologies if I’m not mistaken

        https://www.forbes.com/sites/bernardmarr/2024/06/25/the-vital-difference-between-machine-learning-and-generative-ai/ probably not the best source, I just grabbed what came up

        They don’t really do the same thing, and have different types of outputs compared to one another, even if both use a neural network of weights or whatever

        As a person who has spent a huge amount of my life making art I think the idea that it will get more people into art is naive, and I think being devoid of understanding artistic principles it makes poor reference compared to anything else, which is part of why artists communities loathe generative AI. I follow tons of artists online and they all periodically have to stop and vent their frustration.

        A youtuber artist did a whole video explaining how finding reference on the internet is now borderline impossible due to ai content, and after problem solving explained you can avoid that problem by only looking at images older than when gen ai became widespread. It reached a pretty big audience and was extremely well recieved by artists, broadly, hate gen ai and want nothing to do with it 😅

        Also just wanna clarify- I’m not downvoting you. I try to downvote when a comment is bad behaviour or doesn’t add anything, not just when I don’t agree with someone

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          Interesting, my art friends, around 50% just love using generative AI for images to use, the other just don’t care. No one does digital art though, or not as their main style for what I know (acrylics, oil paint, gouache, aquarelle etc ).

          I don’t like AI gen images because there is always tons of crap in colors and lighting, I guess for composition it could be useful but I don’t use images for that personally, so I like go on pinterest.co.kr with an ad blocker and use my imagination.

          Yeah there is someone on a downvote spree lol, no problems & thanks for your post!