A lot of DOs go to Osteopathic medical schools because getting into MD schools is crazy competitive. It’s just another path to becoming a doctor that’s an option if you don’t get into a US MD school. The medicine curriculum is basically the same between the two. Though I’ve worked with a bunch of DOs who believe in osteopathy and practice it.
So they’re schools of medicine with just enough quackery sprinkled on top to receive a different name. And some of their alumni embrace the quackery while others reject it.
How would you know the DO you’re about to see is a quack? You don’t I guess. If you’re risk averse, you’ll just call them all quacks and find a doctor without the quackery pixie dust.
research has found no significant differences between the professions when it comes to hospital readmissions, death after hospitalizations, surgery outcomes or other patient metrics
While vestiges from Dr. Still’s original philosophy are still incorporated into modern training — students spend roughly 200 hours learning a hands-on approach for diagnosing and treating various ailments called osteopathic manipulative treatment — most D.O.s say they don’t use these techniques.
Following the link:
Of 10,000 surveyed osteopathic physicians, 1,683 (16.83%) responded. Of those respondents, 1,308 (77.74%) reported using OMT on less than 5% of their patients, while 958 (56.95%) did not use OMT on any of their patients. Impactful barriers to OMT use included lack of time, lack of reimbursement, lack of institutional/practice support, and lack of confidence/proficiency. Factors positively correlated with OMT use included female gender, being full owner of a practice, and practicing in an office-based setting.
I swear I read in the newsletter with the article I posted that this <5% was around the same percentage of MD patients who received osteopathy…
Not a shock, to the point that I got to doing a little song and dance to suss it out when dealing with a new doctor. What the MD does is tell me that at least they didn’t have to actively reject part if their curriculum to avoid quackery.
It’s not even don’t get in. They’re rigorous institutions that have a marginal difference in competitiveness. They just make you take a class on those dumb manipulations. In the end it doesn’t matter if you went through DO school or med school: if you’re shit you’re not getting matched into or getting through residency. And the key part is both sides of that pipeline compete for the same limited residency placements that are significantly fewer than the number of graduates and are judged the same.
Oh they’re definitely not judged the same. There’s a reason DOs interested in the more sought after specialties rarely try for MD programs. When you have a bunch of alpha nerds who base their self worth on test scores and other stuff like that, you get arbitrary stratification. And I’ve seen good doctors fail STEP tests and shit doctors who graduated from Harvard. There’s always those situations when some happen to be good at the stuff a system deems worthwhile but suck at being a person and vice versa.
A lot of DOs go to Osteopathic medical schools because getting into MD schools is crazy competitive. It’s just another path to becoming a doctor that’s an option if you don’t get into a US MD school. The medicine curriculum is basically the same between the two. Though I’ve worked with a bunch of DOs who believe in osteopathy and practice it.
So they’re schools of medicine with just enough quackery sprinkled on top to receive a different name. And some of their alumni embrace the quackery while others reject it.
How would you know the DO you’re about to see is a quack? You don’t I guess. If you’re risk averse, you’ll just call them all quacks and find a doctor without the quackery pixie dust.
Following the link:
I swear I read in the newsletter with the article I posted that this <5% was around the same percentage of MD patients who received osteopathy…
This might come as a shock, but that “MD” behind their name isn’t a guarantee they dont hold quackish beliefs either.
Not a shock, to the point that I got to doing a little song and dance to suss it out when dealing with a new doctor. What the MD does is tell me that at least they didn’t have to actively reject part if their curriculum to avoid quackery.
It’s not even don’t get in. They’re rigorous institutions that have a marginal difference in competitiveness. They just make you take a class on those dumb manipulations. In the end it doesn’t matter if you went through DO school or med school: if you’re shit you’re not getting matched into or getting through residency. And the key part is both sides of that pipeline compete for the same limited residency placements that are significantly fewer than the number of graduates and are judged the same.
Oh they’re definitely not judged the same. There’s a reason DOs interested in the more sought after specialties rarely try for MD programs. When you have a bunch of alpha nerds who base their self worth on test scores and other stuff like that, you get arbitrary stratification. And I’ve seen good doctors fail STEP tests and shit doctors who graduated from Harvard. There’s always those situations when some happen to be good at the stuff a system deems worthwhile but suck at being a person and vice versa.