Then you can generate a password so big and complex, the site or app starts begging you to stop. At that moment, you can say “ur password system is weak.”
Careful with that. Sometimes a site will allow you to use some stupid long password when you sign up, but then it turns out that some other version of the site or an app for it on other platforms won’t accept a password that long!
It just says “wrong password” and you’ll be guessing at which random character did it cut the password. Luckily sometimes it’s just a stupid html verification form that can be disabled in the console and be submitted anyway.
It’s not a service you’re paying for. It is just a password manager.
Though tbh, I don’t know all of bitwardens spesific details.
It’s at least open source, but can you have your passwords stored anywhere other than their servers? What if the company changes path - can you just use another fork or are you stuck.
Bitwarden is self-hostable and foss, with some unofficial software already out there. Not much opportunity for the company to entrap customers if it went evil.
IMO, for most people it’s best to just send them to register at bitwarden. It’s less hassle so they might actually follow through, while being infinitely better than what they were doing before.
Or just use the built in password managers in chrome or Firefox. No need to pay for a password manager when they are free on the browsers most people already use
Fair enough but both the chrome and Firefox password managers are cross platform and can be exported and imported supporting the ability to move away from them in the future should you choose. So for a first step from having insecure passwords to a password manager that gives strong passwords for someone who doesnt even want to rema strong password in the first place, they are good steps in the right direction. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
I mean the post is about people who dont want to put in effort to remember a good password, the path of least resistance here is still a good one. It’s not like the built in password managers are bad. With Firefox you can import from chrome and I believe you can also export the passwords if you wanted to move away from Firefox anyways. It’s not like you are locked away for good.
Do yourself a favor and go to https://bitwarden.com/
Then you can generate a password so big and complex, the site or app starts begging you to stop. At that moment, you can say “ur password system is weak.”
Careful with that. Sometimes a site will allow you to use some stupid long password when you sign up, but then it turns out that some other version of the site or an app for it on other platforms won’t accept a password that long!
That’s okay, I just want to hear “it’s too big”
It just says “wrong password” and you’ll be guessing at which random character did it cut the password. Luckily sometimes it’s just a stupid html verification form that can be disabled in the console and be submitted anyway.
I mentioned lemmy passwords in the other reply. Guess how I found out
Or alternatively, it allows you to enter a password as long as you like, but on their end it gets truncated.
In lemmy, password length is capped to 60. Weak.
Sadly they are putting ‘AI’ bullshit into it now: https://bitwarden.com/blog/bitwarden-mcp-server/
Arghh, why is every company thinking, that AI will make them valuable…
Yeah a definite nope, for what reason do I use bitwarden? So that exactly this doesn’t happen…
Anyway vaultwarden is what I’m using, much more performant and self-contained, compatible to bitwarden (but you need to host it, obviously)…
Yes but it’s opt in, not opt out, it’s not shoved down my throat unlike most other companies.
Almost, but KeepassDX is better 😎
Why?
It’s not a service you’re paying for. It is just a password manager.
Though tbh, I don’t know all of bitwardens spesific details.
It’s at least open source, but can you have your passwords stored anywhere other than their servers? What if the company changes path - can you just use another fork or are you stuck.
Bitwarden is self-hostable and foss, with some unofficial software already out there. Not much opportunity for the company to entrap customers if it went evil.
IMO, for most people it’s best to just send them to register at bitwarden. It’s less hassle so they might actually follow through, while being infinitely better than what they were doing before.
Thanks, I’ll look into it :)
Or just use the built in password managers in chrome or Firefox. No need to pay for a password manager when they are free on the browsers most people already use
I didn’t say anything about paying. It’s free in both meanings of the word.
It’s also cross-platform and -browser and better than builtin ones.
Fair enough but both the chrome and Firefox password managers are cross platform and can be exported and imported supporting the ability to move away from them in the future should you choose. So for a first step from having insecure passwords to a password manager that gives strong passwords for someone who doesnt even want to rema strong password in the first place, they are good steps in the right direction. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
I wouldn’t recommend that. Bitwarden is free and works on any device, and doesn’t tie you to a browser. What if you want to switch browsers someday?
Same as wanting to switch password managers some day. Firefox has been the most consistent thing in my life.
That’s not really the same. But if it works for you, go for it.
I mean the post is about people who dont want to put in effort to remember a good password, the path of least resistance here is still a good one. It’s not like the built in password managers are bad. With Firefox you can import from chrome and I believe you can also export the passwords if you wanted to move away from Firefox anyways. It’s not like you are locked away for good.
I started with a browser password manager, and when I needed to change browsers it was an extreme pain in the ass to move everything.