• layzerjeyt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 days ago

    What a sloppy way to write this article. Header text to indicate CSAM then just naming people liberating netflix. Does german netflix stream CSAM? Or is this news outlet just kind of implying these people are sex criminals for fun?

    On a different note, would love to hear from/about the 15 out of 18 people who were searched in Feb and apparently got away. Either being targeted for harassment by authorities, huge false positive fuckups, or have amazing opsec.

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      then just naming people liberating netflix.

      The arrest warrant for a 25-year-old from Hamburg has since been extended because he is now suspected of inciting serious sexual abuse of children via a messenger service and producing child pornography content, among other things.

      Those are two very different things…

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      Anytime you need to tell the audience “you’re supposed to hate them” throw these “suspicions” on, suspicions don’t need proof but slander is forever.

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      Reserve judgements until there is some real evidence. Think of the children narratives open a lot of doors for intrusive actions and advance a pirate=criminal narrative.

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      True, but only one of the suspects is alleged to be involved with CSAM. Also, it seems like that wasn’t the original lead the police were pursuing, given that the charges were added post-arrest. This seems very much like an anti-piracy operation that just happened to catch a pedophile as well.

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      That’s an extreme offense, and thus, requires an extreme amount of evidence.

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      If this is true, they need to prove it in court… It seems like they are just throwing out pedo shit to distract from idiotic waste of resources to protect some US parasites “property”

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      Yeah, I don’t care if you’re seeding the entirety of film history for free. If you’re also helping distribute child pornography, you deserve to rot.

      I do wonder if this is a usenet case though. I know that’s a concern for a lot of people.

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        Since usenet and direct download are a lot more popular than torrent in germany - it might possibly be one of those.

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          It could be a case of intentional word play but the wording of the article makes it seem like it’s more than just usenet. Specifically the line: “inciting serious sexual abuse of children via a messenger service and producing child pornography content”

          It doesn’t read as though it’s simply CSAM traffic through his network and if that were the case, I’d imagine the other 2 would be looking at similar charges, but news media notoriously bad a properly representing tech so that’s what gives me caution.

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            Heise is a German specifically tech news outlet, so they are generally quite good with facts about tech.

            These arrests are targeted at an illegal IPTV provider which restreams channels from licensed TV providers (Sky, DAZN, RTL+). These illegal IPTV services usually also provide on-demand content like Netflix shows, movies etc.

            The CSAM incident is definitely an additional charge for a single individual and not part of the prior investigation about an illegal IPTV service which provides customers with otherwise legal TV.