Man, UK is such a weird nanny state. It seems like parental responsibility is completely abdicated to the state. I am not terribly surprised though given the last time I was there, at every train station I saw multiple people employed to harass travelers to step back from the line as if the fully grown adults were completely unaware that trains were coming through.
This is not limited to UK. The EU is implementing de-anonymising internet users under guise of child safety as well. It passed EU council and parliament earlier this year. So all member countries will be forced to implement it.
It’s weird, the world in general is heading in this direction, just seems Britain has been at it for longer. I’ve always wondered why (saw it in the 70’s, it’s just gotten more “normal”). Seems the EU has a strong “safetyism” mindset.
In the US it seems to come from two directions: litigation when someone gets injured either by an indifferent company or the idiocy of an idiot not following safety protocols, the other being some parents fear everything and want to bubble wrap the world.
To paraphrase the sheriff in Cool Hand Luke:
“So you get what we have here today - kids who have no resilience, no ability to cope in the real world. Well, that’s the way these parents want it, so they get it”
(in the movie, the sheriff is pointing out Luke’s stubborn refusal to understand how things work, and that he has some culpability too).
I think the high trust to low trust societal spectrum is a major explanator (1).
No need to police the other if you believe you’ve, more or less, each other’s best interest at heart. It’s that that’s disappeared.
UK has always been a thrown together of multiple countries and colonies, with remaining animosity. They’ve been a low trust society (at least at the national level) for longer than other countries have.
It does seem very strange how we’re losing any cultural concept of parenting. Then again it’s probably just one more side effect of hardcore neoliberalism squashing people.
It’s weird, the world in general is heading in this direction, just seems Britain has been at it for longer. I’ve always wondered why (saw it in the 70’s, it’s just gotten more “normal”). Seems the EU has a strong “safetyism” mindset.
In the US it seems to come from two directions: litigation when someone gets injured either by an indifferent company or the idiocy of an idiot not following safety protocols, the other being some parents fear everything and want to bubble wrap the world.
To paraphrase the sheriff in Cool Hand Luke:
“So you get what we have here today - kids who have no resilience, no ability to cope in the real world. Well, that’s the way these parents want it, so they get it”
(in the movie, the sheriff is pointing out Luke’s stubborn refusal to understand how things work, and that he has some culpability too).
Man, UK is such a weird nanny state. It seems like parental responsibility is completely abdicated to the state. I am not terribly surprised though given the last time I was there, at every train station I saw multiple people employed to harass travelers to step back from the line as if the fully grown adults were completely unaware that trains were coming through.
This is not limited to UK. The EU is implementing de-anonymising internet users under guise of child safety as well. It passed EU council and parliament earlier this year. So all member countries will be forced to implement it.
(1)
You’re not wrong, but at least the EU country I’m in strongly opposes it.
If you group votes by country, then every country voted pro (1).
If you group votes by political party, only the European Conservatives and Reformists were divided 50/50, all other parties voted overwhelmingly pro.
Thanks for the info even if it is disappointing 🖖
It’s weird, the world in general is heading in this direction, just seems Britain has been at it for longer. I’ve always wondered why (saw it in the 70’s, it’s just gotten more “normal”). Seems the EU has a strong “safetyism” mindset.
In the US it seems to come from two directions: litigation when someone gets injured either by an indifferent company or the idiocy of an idiot not following safety protocols, the other being some parents fear everything and want to bubble wrap the world.
To paraphrase the sheriff in Cool Hand Luke:
(in the movie, the sheriff is pointing out Luke’s stubborn refusal to understand how things work, and that he has some culpability too).
I think the high trust to low trust societal spectrum is a major explanator (1).
No need to police the other if you believe you’ve, more or less, each other’s best interest at heart. It’s that that’s disappeared.
UK has always been a thrown together of multiple countries and colonies, with remaining animosity. They’ve been a low trust society (at least at the national level) for longer than other countries have.
That’s my guess at least.
It does seem very strange how we’re losing any cultural concept of parenting. Then again it’s probably just one more side effect of hardcore neoliberalism squashing people.
It’s weird, the world in general is heading in this direction, just seems Britain has been at it for longer. I’ve always wondered why (saw it in the 70’s, it’s just gotten more “normal”). Seems the EU has a strong “safetyism” mindset.
In the US it seems to come from two directions: litigation when someone gets injured either by an indifferent company or the idiocy of an idiot not following safety protocols, the other being some parents fear everything and want to bubble wrap the world.
To paraphrase the sheriff in Cool Hand Luke:
(in the movie, the sheriff is pointing out Luke’s stubborn refusal to understand how things work, and that he has some culpability too).