Being pushed for a technologically illiterate ex headteacher as usual.

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    Well this was 100% to be expected. Banning VPNs is next, then TOR and before you know it you have to scan your ID to even access the internet.

    Say goodbye to the “free” internet. Say hello to Orwellian “state approved” internet.

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      If I was a repressive government, I wouldn’t want to ban VPNs. What I’d want is identity verification before you booted the VPN up, ideally in the form of some program or application running on your device, so that I, the repressive government, can track what you do through the VPN.

      If I was a repressive government, I would want my citizens to be secure from non-governmental threats, if for no other reason than to my government look better.

      Besides, if it helps, VPNs are really hard to ban. China has been trying for decades now without much success.

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        Besides, if it helps, VPNs are really hard to ban. China has been trying for decades now without much success.

        It’s better to have it be illegal, and available. That way the government can selectively prosecute and punish (political) opponents.

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    How about you let parents deal with their own kids and you stay the fuck out of people’s lives, eh?

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      Let me MITM my own kids and leave me alone. They will know I can see what they are looking at and they will fear me.

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    “We want a list of people using VPNs, when and where. So we can corelate that with traffic flow data and service providers.”

    This has nothing to do with porn or kids. This is about power and curtailing speech.

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    Man, UK is such a weird nanny state. It seems like parental responsibility is completely abdicated to the state. I am not terribly surprised though given the last time I was there, at every train station I saw multiple people employed to harass travelers to step back from the line as if the fully grown adults were completely unaware that trains were coming through.

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      This is not limited to UK. The EU is implementing de-anonymising internet users under guise of child safety as well. It passed EU council and parliament earlier this year. So all member countries will be forced to implement it.

      (1)

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          If you group votes by country, then every country voted pro (1).

          If you group votes by political party, only the European Conservatives and Reformists were divided 50/50, all other parties voted overwhelmingly pro.

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      It’s weird, the world in general is heading in this direction, just seems Britain has been at it for longer. I’ve always wondered why (saw it in the 70’s, it’s just gotten more “normal”). Seems the EU has a strong “safetyism” mindset.

      In the US it seems to come from two directions: litigation when someone gets injured either by an indifferent company or the idiocy of an idiot not following safety protocols, the other being some parents fear everything and want to bubble wrap the world.

      To paraphrase the sheriff in Cool Hand Luke:

      “So you get what we have here today - kids who have no resilience, no ability to cope in the real world. Well, that’s the way these parents want it, so they get it”

      (in the movie, the sheriff is pointing out Luke’s stubborn refusal to understand how things work, and that he has some culpability too).

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        I’ve always wondered why

        I think the high trust to low trust societal spectrum is a major explanator (1).

        No need to police the other if you believe you’ve, more or less, each other’s best interest at heart. It’s that that’s disappeared.

        UK has always been a thrown together of multiple countries and colonies, with remaining animosity. They’ve been a low trust society (at least at the national level) for longer than other countries have.

        That’s my guess at least.

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      It does seem very strange how we’re losing any cultural concept of parenting. Then again it’s probably just one more side effect of hardcore neoliberalism squashing people.

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      It’s weird, the world in general is heading in this direction, just seems Britain has been at it for longer. I’ve always wondered why (saw it in the 70’s, it’s just gotten more “normal”). Seems the EU has a strong “safetyism” mindset.

      In the US it seems to come from two directions: litigation when someone gets injured either by an indifferent company or the idiocy of an idiot not following safety protocols, the other being some parents fear everything and want to bubble wrap the world.

      To paraphrase the sheriff in Cool Hand Luke:

      “So you get what we have here today - kids who have no resilience, no ability to cope in the real world. Well, that’s the way these parents want it, so they get it”

      (in the movie, the sheriff is pointing out Luke’s stubborn refusal to understand how things work, and that he has some culpability too).

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        And there probably are some free ones which still sell access to your home network/computer. Let’s protect kids harder by pushing them to download sketchy software!

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        the free tiers are all basically useless lets not waste each other’s time with nonsense. and the vast majority require a CC to purchase. so again, lets not waste each others time.

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          Certainly not. When I tried free Proton I could get up to 600Mbps. That is very usable.

          Furthermore, some can be purchased via other methods like cash (Mullvad, IVPN, Proton). I am sure they can buy postage stamps and send mail.

          And Mullvad vouchers are also sold physically in few stores based on their website, though only in Sweden (Inet, Webhallen) and Germany (ProxyStore).

          Lastly, kids can also have their own debit cards too, or just steal their parent’s. OR, there’s stuff like Visa gift cards.

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            you seem really stuck on this. lol. go ahead find me the child mailing mullvad, ivpn, and proton. technically you’re correct. but I assure you almost no child does this and if they did their almost certain capable enough to work around any road blocks you start putting up. like switching to a client that supports i2p.

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            When I tried free Proton I could get up to 600Mbps.

            It should be noted for everyone else that this is very likely bullshit, and even if it’s not, your speeds depend entirely upon how full the server is and won’t be that fast most of the time. Proton’s free tier is known for being absolute garbage most of the time, bordering on unusable.

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              Tested with SANET (Slovak academic network).

              It’s an old result, tried with exit IP 89.187.164.251.

              I tried to search it up, it is shown in one list of ProtonVPN addresses on Google, but the GitHub site gives 404.

              Edit: Wireguard, I should add.

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    Stop children using VPNs existing to watch porn, ministers told

    Radical times, radical solutions.

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    I guess it’s just too late for those kids that viewed porn. What are they going to do with all those dead bodies?