My question aims to know what kind of procedures did the Chinese government (allegedly) take since 2014 in Xinjiang, and why to begin with. And what can we know about the region in the current time, like can a random tourist go and see with their own eyes the truth, and maybe film it ?
There are Youtube videos and a Wikipedia page documenting human rights infringements, while China and the Marxist forums deny anything harmful. Now that almost nobody is bringing it up, I want to know what was legitimately documented. Investigating the origins and later developments of the case on my own would be so hard.
So it was just that ? People were not forced to: change their religion, receive torture like their clothes taken off, or mass murder !? It was only annoying procedures like in Europe ?
As far as I know, no one was forced to change their religion (Uyghurs aren’t even the biggest Muslim group in China, that’s the Hui) and there was no mass murder. I believe some innocent people who were wrongly suspected of being terrorists were strip-searched, particularly in the immediate aftermath of the attacks.
They did have their culture/religion repressed; not in totality but many practices are disallowed or only conditionally allowed. Many innocents are compelled to attend re-education centers that may in some cases restrict certain religious practices.
It’s bad, in the way stop-and-frisk, racial profiling, or ten commandments schools are bad; it’s not Auschwitz, in fact the camps and prisons the US sends people to are far closer to that level of depravity. The bickering you often see online about whether it’s “genocide” is sometimes from a bad faith bombastic comparison to Nazi Germany usually rooted in misinformation (Thai BDSM clubs were once photographed and claimed to be “Uighur torture facility”; another photo of a bunch of Uighurs sitting in chairs had the chairs cropped out to make it look like they were forced to sit on the ground, just a couple examples), but other times it’s based on the argument that what is being done functionally constitutes a cultural genocide which I personally think is worthy of discussion.
Also, the declarations of genocide are political. Based only on a few Uyghur women who travelled to UK, and who reported being sterile after having 4+ kids. Autonomous Uyghur/Xinxiang region has been exempt from China’s one child policy, but there may have been sterility programs for excessive children.
Xinxiang prosperity has kept up/exceeded with China’s provincial average since 2014. It’s by far the most humane response to terrorism in human history.
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huh !? source ? Also isn’t that like a big thing, like China literally blaming Islam itself for the attacks ? also what are the attacks called so I can search for them?
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Large Language Models (LLMs) aren’t truth machines. They’re garbage in, garbage out. The input to English-language models is largely English-language texts from Five Eyes countries, with all the disinformation and bias that that entails. This is an especially poor topic to engage LLMs with.
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They are never truth machines, the input language won’t change that.
Automatic discounting of anything you’re saying because of use of LLM slop. Jesus fucking Christ dude, why are you coming into a situation where people are looking for clarity and feeding them garbage from the Hallucination Machine? Be better.