Of course, it’s everyone’s own decision what they do with their free time and it is not my place to judge anyone, but you could at least give a good idea a chance, right?
Of course, it’s everyone’s own decision what they do with their free time and it is not my place to judge anyone, but you could at least give a good idea a chance, right?
At what point is that a solution looking for a need rather than the other way around? Of course it is more complicated than that - people won’t come unless they see it already, but they can’t participate unless it exists already.
What if you consolidated football, fútbol, hockey, etc. into a “sports” community? And movies + TV + videos into a “media entertainment” one? And LEGO et al. into “toys”? Fortunately PieFed offers an incredible amount of support for fragmentation of communities with multiple tools.:-)
[email protected] has Week: 14 / Month: 36 users
[email protected] has Week: 123 / Month: 264 users
[email protected] has 1 weekly and monthly active users
The userbase just isn’t there.
[email protected] is active but relies mostly on one user
[email protected] is mostly kept active by [email protected] under different alts
The issue isn’t the community fragmentation, it’s the total number of active users. Anything that can help people coming here, be it another metaphor, is welcome.
Disregarding users who don’t see how email can be compared to a forum isn’t really achieving that goal.
Yes I used email as a proxy, and as so many others pointed out here already (and which I agree), the Fediverse is nowhere close to being as simple as e.g. Reddit to use.
I really like your earlier idea to just recommend like 3 instances, then link to a longer-form post listing out all the various factors such as “is the instance based in the USA”, “are conservatives going to feel welcomed there” (no), “what about the tankie issue”, etc.
But THEN, if after all that, they either choose not to read any of it, or do and then leave, I wouldn’t worry about it - bc you did your due diligence, so what more could you possibly do? And if you think of something, then yeah do that, but beyond that, it really is up to them to be willing to try new things.
The posts promoting Lemmy/Piefed only stay on /r/RedditAlternatives for so long. If at some point in time someone is looking for an alternative, goes to the sub, and sees nothing except 1-person project that will shut down in a month, then they can’t find us, and we can’t fault them for that.
That’s why I suggested to combine communities together. Although PieFed already does that. Movies & TV seems quite active, and offers the best of both worlds not having to search for communities and also if someone is interested in seeing still more of a certain type of post then they can subscribe to the actual community - rather than the Feed - and see those in their Subscribed section.
No we wouldn’t fault them for leaving for that reason, but seeing how empty Lemmy can be (a fault that PieFed does not really suffer from, at least nowhere nearly to the same degree) is a different reason altogether than “it’s too complicated”.
The issue wasn’t new joiners finding the place empty, the issue is them not even having a look at it’s too complicated.
Yes Lemmy is quite complicated. PieFed is not however - again, at least not to the same degree. I don’t know what instance would be best to recommend to people on Reddit (strongly preferably one that has defederated from Hexbear!), though pointing them directly to the page revealing Movies & TV might be a fantastic start? Or here is Cats on PieFed.zip? They don’t need to learn everything - like defederation drama - on day one, just feel welcomed as they take their first step.
Then once they are invested, they hopefully won’t want to leave. But if they do… that’s their choice?
I don’t know who made that feed but it’s lacking both [email protected] and [email protected] lol.
That’s quite something
Let the team at piefed.social know so they can add them? Communities were in enormous flux there for awhile but perhaps things are a tad bit more stable now?
https://piefed.zip/
What they do once they’re here is a completely different topic. If the comparison in this meme helps, let’s use it, and let’s not disregard users who don’t get the email comparison, like you did in your first comment.
I would not recommend that one to people on Reddit - I can see that it does not defederate from either hexbear.net or lemmygrad.ml as piefed.social does, see e.g. https://piefed.zip/c/[email protected] and https://piefed.zip/c/[email protected].
Let’s see… piefed.world seems to have defederated from both of them: https://piefed.world/c/[email protected] does exist but it looks to have been imported once rather than something that is connected continually.
https://piefed.ca/ also has no content or communities from either of them so it too looks to have been defederated, and if you are looking to avoid the lemmy.world mods then that could be a great option, for people currently using Reddit who primarily tend to be from the USA?
Or https://feddit.online/ for anyone located in Europe. All of those are great options and I would suggest to recommend them over piefed.zip.
Of course everything is so new so we don’t know so much about how well-maintained those servers are - feddit.online has a lower uptime below 95% but the others are all >99.5% so seem great so far?