Is it ok? Is there something else you recommend instead? I tried nextcloud talk and it was pretty bad. Jitsi was ok but self hosting it looked complicated. FOSS only, of course.
The only issue I have with GNU-Jami <u>is them checking for Unique Usernames</u> it’s annoying & problematic<br> You have the DHT (“Distributed Hash-Table” based on Ethereum) & that should be enough<br> why even check for the uniqueness of the attached username ?<br> The DHT should be the ID & names need to be detachable from it<br> & we can’t even edit the username once registered
Otherwise it’s high-quality Libre/Free-Software but, <u>with room for improvements</u>
I do !
works pretty well on both AOSP phones and gnu+linux desktops. Sad thing though is that I don’t like using flatpak, and I prefer distro native built software, and on Artix/Arch, there are times where the version between the distro version is slightly outdated with regards to the mobile version, and that makes things not to work. This is mainly an issue ever since jami decided to stop supporting the gtk client on the desktop, to me the qt experience have been sad. Not sure if someone has forked the gtk client, that would be great.
So I’m using xmpp as my main messenger, and keep trying jami when it works.
I really like the p2p approach from jami, and also the way they care for those with no huge batteries phones, given they added support for unified push notifications, which can be of course avoided if required for extra privacy. Given my use case, I can’t turn jami into my main messenger yet, but I keep trying, :) Meanwhile xmpp is there for me.
I use Jami and love it. If you want to use it on a de-googled phone you may not get live notifications though, which is annoying if you want to use it for calls. The simplest solution is to allow it to run in the background but it also allows you to use selfhosted push notifications which is cool. I just let it run an accept the hit to to my phone’s battery. Jami is fairly easy to use and looks friendly too, which is helpful for getting non-technical friends to join you on it.
I struggled with Nextcloud Talk too.
Highly recommend Jami 👍
XMPP is absolutely the best option if you don’t care about metadata protection.
XMPP does video chat, or at least voice? What clients do you recommend? Linux, android, and iphone are all of interest. Thanks.
How about Movim ?? It’s an XMPP-Based Social-Media/Microblogging platform
Interesting, I’ll take a look at it, thanks., But I’ve been particularly interested in Jami because it runs on multiple platforms, is on F-droid, and is a GNU program.
Why the fascination with GNU ?
Dino and Conversations. Some don’t have OEMO so be careful. And yes it has video chat.
Thanks, I see conversations on f-droid so will try it. I don’t see Dino there but that’s ok. I’ll look up what OEMO is.
Dino is on desktop. OEMO is XMPP’s implementation of the double rachet.
dino is a gnu+linux software, built with gtk4. If you’re using windows then the option is gajim, which in order to support omemo needs a plugin, though I can’t tell much more than that about it since I can’t even recall when was the last time I used windows.
That said, conversations has one important setting if syncing devices, which is indicating that the client won’t delete messages, the server will. Not sure why that is not the default, I guess statistically most xmpp users just make use of conversations and that’s it. The other important setting is configuring security for omemo always. Dino doesn’t need any setting for letting the server delete messages (it does when there’s no pending device to be synced) and doesn’t offer that option, and at the moment the user must be careful and set each conversation to be secured by omemo with no exceptions, but it’s already merged on master, and waiting for a new release, the option for omemo always, as on conversations.
That said, using xmpp doesn’t imply not having jami installed and keep trying it. Who knows, maybe you like it and it works fine for your purpose, and you decide for it to be you main messenger application.
I seriousy wish Dino & Gajim were feature-complete; <br><u>we need something on par with Conversations on a desktop-client</u>
Regarding omemo, dino is getting there, see its closed issue 1609. Not sure why it has taken them too long for a new release, but they have the stuff already merged.
Element is pretty good
