No. Those are social services, not the system. “The system” specifically refers to economic and political power structures. Any modern society can and necessarily must have these things, so they’re not an argument in favor of one system over another except in the sense of which system provides the best access to them. Bourgeoi democracy is clearly failing at like half of these, so yeah.
Those are social services, not the system. “The system” specifically refers to economic and political power structures.
You do realize that there’s no real separation between these thing, right? We assign terms to them so that we can talk about them, but in practice a logistics system is an economy and is also a governance organization (or requires one to maintain balance and adequate flow of resources from one place to another), and politics is inevitable when people are involved in complex administrative work. It doesn’t matter if “the system” is capitalist or socialist or feudal or whatever, someone somewhere has to make decisions about which needs get met with which resources at what time and how to get them there, otherwise nothing happens.
Any modern society can and necessarily must have these things, so they’re not an argument in favor of one system over another except in the sense of which system provides the best access to them.
I’m not arguing in favor of any particular system, I’m pointing out that there are real people’s lives that are actively dependent on the current system and that changing the system will have a drastic human cost that most armchair rebels never think about. I’m pointing out that if you’re actually serious about building a better society then you should start with figuring out the details of how to provide care for people who are unable to provide it for themselves.
If your plan doesn’t account for the weakest, the poorest, the most vulnerable, people who are laying in hospital beds on life support, people who are going to the emergency room because they can’t afford regular health care, children with cancer… from the outset, right now, before you even talk about tearing down the current system, then it will be just as bad as any other system that has come before, no matter what label you apply to it, because your priorities are completely fucked.
No. Those are social services, not the system. “The system” specifically refers to economic and political power structures. Any modern society can and necessarily must have these things, so they’re not an argument in favor of one system over another except in the sense of which system provides the best access to them. Bourgeoi democracy is clearly failing at like half of these, so yeah.
You do realize that there’s no real separation between these thing, right? We assign terms to them so that we can talk about them, but in practice a logistics system is an economy and is also a governance organization (or requires one to maintain balance and adequate flow of resources from one place to another), and politics is inevitable when people are involved in complex administrative work. It doesn’t matter if “the system” is capitalist or socialist or feudal or whatever, someone somewhere has to make decisions about which needs get met with which resources at what time and how to get them there, otherwise nothing happens.
I’m not arguing in favor of any particular system, I’m pointing out that there are real people’s lives that are actively dependent on the current system and that changing the system will have a drastic human cost that most armchair rebels never think about. I’m pointing out that if you’re actually serious about building a better society then you should start with figuring out the details of how to provide care for people who are unable to provide it for themselves.
If your plan doesn’t account for the weakest, the poorest, the most vulnerable, people who are laying in hospital beds on life support, people who are going to the emergency room because they can’t afford regular health care, children with cancer… from the outset, right now, before you even talk about tearing down the current system, then it will be just as bad as any other system that has come before, no matter what label you apply to it, because your priorities are completely fucked.