I hope they add supports for more foldables!
i hope grapheneos keeps supporting pixels, if possible. i liked pixels way before I discovered grapheneos due to the cameras that I still think are on top in the android world, and when I became privacy conscious it was a perfect add on to an already nice phone imo.
Good camera was just a byproduct if better post processing on Google. It was true maybe 5-6 years ago that pixels had too of the line camera. But these days, even Motorola can manage a comparable camera to pixel.
I’m hyped! Get the OS on a foldable on-par with the Z Fold 7 (in terms of thinness, camera quality, battery life, and UI featureset), and I’m sold. I am so done with Google and Samsung’s bullshit. If I wanted an iPhone, I would have bought an iPhone. I’m tired of them copying Apple and somehow managing to be even worse at it. I don’t want to be forced to use use either of their shitty app stores.
FWIW, I’m aware that I’m going to be waiting for awhile.
I’m glad this is getting some traction now, but this is some poor reporting. This is one site reporting what another site saw, which was just GrapheneOS restating things they’ve been saying since the summer, with no new info. I read both this article and the one they link to as their source and learned nothing I haven’t already known for months just from casually checking on GrapheneOS socials.
For my brokes ass I’m just going to keep buying secondhand last-gen pixels, but its good for the overall market to get an expansion in grapheneOS support.
Please let it be Nothing or OnePlus 🙏
I’ll speculate.
My money’s on Asus. Asus is a bit more mainstream than Nothing but still enough of an underdog that I think they should see the value in a partnership. They already target an enthusiast niche with the ROG line.
The Nothing Phone 3 uses an SD 8s Gen 4, which is not Qualcomm’s “flagship” SOC, and it would be stretching the definition of “major” OEM, but who knows? This seems the most likely after Asus.
Moto’s only flagship Snapdragon phone is the Razr Ultra, which I guess is possible. It’d be weird, but hey, I’d buy one.
OnePlus has been moving in the opposite direction for years now, locking things down more and more. I think they’re too big for their britches at this point.
Sony’s flagships are crazy expensive, well beyond the price of Pixels. They also don’t cover the US market, though I’m not sure how important that is to the Graphene devs.
HMD doesn’t make any phones with flagship SOCs. I think their best is the Skyline, with a 7s gen 2, Qualcomm’s fourth-tier SOC line (the “s” stands for shitty).
Fairphone doesn’t use flagship Snapdragons and GOS has had some pretty nasty things to say about them in the past.
Samsung is a pipe dream. They’d have no motivation. The entire GOS user base would be a rounding error to them.
On a global scale, Xiaomi would be a huge get. Not sure I see any of the Chinese OEMs focusing on this though.
Lenovo and Blackberry…might still exist? I think?
I would love to put Graphene on a Xiaomi device, even more, I’d love to put them on Huawei phones, but afaik those ones don’t have an unlocked bootloader.
What did they say about Fairphone? As far as I know, Fairphone doesn’t provide patches as frequently as it should. I mean, thats not great, but it’s not “nasty.”
Lenovo bought Motorola like a decade ago.
It’s the same Asus that doesn’t allow bootloader unlock anymore for “stability concerns”?
Honestly can’t imagine any chinese manufacturer partnering with a free and open Android OS. Even though it would be cool, since their phones usually have decent hardware
Asus would be nice, I’ve liked most of the zenphones but either didn’t support my carrier/bands or something like that or they stopped allowing bootloader unlocking which is why I didn’t think they’d be on the list but this would be a great way to jump back in as an option for enthusiasts.
Also would love for it to be RAZR, I really want one but also want GrapheneOS but hesitant to buy a pixel.
I think we can safely say it’s probably not Samsung or Motorola.
PLEASE
BUT IF THEY KEEP JINXING IT???
Doesn’t seem “it’s finally ready” when they didn’t name the name.
Amateur marketing speak for “we’re considering bringing it to other hardware”?
It’s not marketing speak because GrapheneOS didn’t say it. It’s a bad headline from a site known for bad reporting. GrapheneOS has been talking about this for months and there’s nothing new in this article that wasn’t already out there.
No need to defend it. It was obviously a comment on the headline; I didn’t care who wrote it - the criticism was directed at whomever vomited it up. Tech publications are as much uncritical PR agencies for tech companies as the latter’s marketroids are.
I was trying to clarify, not defend. It is absolute garbage and this article as a whole is a pile of nothing, written in a weird breathless style like they just discovered something. Thumbs down to this shit all around.
That’s fair. 🙂
Yep, definitely more in line with that reality. 😄
I hope they also enhance their social media strategy, as their unprofessional and aggressive way of communication makes me question their trustworthiness more than I want, as I think the project is awesome.
For me, it would be the opposite. Their “unprofessional” and aggressive way of communications makes me think they are doing it for convictions rather then personal benefits. The person that’s helping you doesn’t need to be overly polite. The person trying to get something out of you does.
I got heavily attacked for basically nothing like a year ago, which made me feel really bad and I still think about it frequently. Whoever treats people like this does not gain a lot of trust from me. Also such impulsiveness should not be involved in such a project. No one needs to be overly polite but also not that hostile against people and like 90% of other projects out there.
Seriously. I love GOS and can’t imagine using a phone without it at this point, but their social media is a shitshow and a half.
Yep. They need an actual comms professional. I love GOS and am forever grateful to the team but having a bunch of non-nuero-typical devs speaking for them is not doing them any favours.
I’m out of the loop. Any examples of this?
They shit on other projects all the time (frequently unprovoked, sometimes without the original conversation having anything to do about security). They also often reply with multiple posts with multiple paragraphs each when shitting on other projects. It shouldn’t take very long to find an example if you trawl through their replies on Twitter, Bluesky, or Mastodon.
They have good points, but they’re often either not relevant to the conversation or worded in such a way that it sounds like every project other than GrapheneOS is dogshit.
They also sometimes go on (IMO) paranoid rants about XYZ project systematically trying to destroy them or whatever.
I got the same vibes when they describe in detail how supposedly terrible Firefox on Android is for security. I actually didn’t believe them just based on the tone.
I mean, I think they’re right that the security is worse. I’m pretty sure it’s worse on desktop too, just not nearly as bad. Last I checked, Firefox on Android still doesn’t do per-site process isolation by default, for example.
Yes that is what they said. But the way they said it made me doubt that it matters quite so much.
I’m pretty sure it’s worse on desktop too
worse than what? What browser is better?
Blink-based ones (Chrome/Chromium, Edge, Brave, Vivaldi, etc.)
Reminds me of our good friends on Lemmygrad.
it’s called effortposting
wasn’t that in the pqst? wasn’t that just the guy who started it or sonethinf? isn’t that person off the team now?
If you’re talking about Daniel Micay, he’s still heavily involved. I’m pretty sure he still maintains the accounts since they haven’t really changed writing style or anything. IIUC though he’s no longer the main dev.
yes i meant daniel micay. ah okay didn’t know he was heavily involved. by “the accounts” i assume you are referring to social media accounts?
That’s what I’ve been thinking as well, remember having a conversation with him in a forum a few years ago and recently looked up something that had a comment from the official GrapheneOS account. The writing style was exactly the same. Kinda disappointing IMO, the dude is clearly a brilliant coder but he should be kept away from the official accounts as far as possible.
If you want a direct example you can check their replies on Mastodon to about every topic.
yes please!
Let’s congrats Graphene team for supporting the Google hardware for so long, they surely helped Google profit a lot given people buying Pixel just to use Graphene.
They supported Google because it was the only device with the hardware security features they needed
…needed.
Wanted. It was a choice.
I doesn’t matter, they’re supporting Google, they should do the best they can for more variety of models, even if it means not being “ultra super highly extreme private”.
That defeats the entire point of the project, there are other custom ROMs that significantly improve privacy and security on non-google phones. What’s accomplished by graphene supporting them?
Break free, implying they won’t support Pixels anymore (is how I interpreted it at first anyway), but they are simply expanding support for more devices. 👍
For existing Pixel users, GrapheneOS plans to maintain support for current devices until their end-of-life dates. The team is working on adding Pixel 10 support, though the timeline remains unclear. Whether they’ll support Pixel 11 and beyond hasn’t been decided yet.
Thanks for the relevant quote 👍
The article suggests that they have not decided whether to support new models of Pixel but will support current models until EOL
So so far only news of expansion. 👍
I wish fairphone could be the thing, but unfortunately - doesn’t seem to be the case https://piunikaweb.com/2025/10/13/grapheneos-ending-pixel-exclusivity-new-oem/
