Is there any good alternative to myAnimeList or would you recommend I go back to the spreadsheet?
Changed the background color not to flash bang anyone
Is there any good alternative to myAnimeList or would you recommend I go back to the spreadsheet?
Changed the background color not to flash bang anyone
Unfortunately this is just the state of the web in the modern day. Virtually every site exists to serve you ads while simultaneously collecting your data and selling it to their “partners” in exchange for their content.
I would love to see any actual verifiable positive ROI numbers directly linked to or resultant from the money a company spent to purchase these targeted ads.
I think the AI bubble is actually a deeper, more structural data bubble. There isn’t actually a case for profitability, they’re just doing it out of investor demands and inertia and because That’s Just How We Do Things.
That’s the neat part, you can’t, because the companies that run ad networks (e.g. Google and Meta) intentionally make the consumer behaviours market as opaque as possible. As the market maker, they have an economic incentive to withold information from their customers, because any mistakes from market participants due to information assymetries directly translate to profit surplus for the market maker.
We have long since moved on from simple pay per click/view pricing models to pay per “impression,” the definition of which is not clear even to the companies that purchase the ads.
And in a somewhat ironic twist, one of the motivations for such extensive surveillance is the desire to quantify such ROIs. Statistics and analytics such as click through and conversion rates all require tracking user behaviour across vast networks.
I wish I could find the ad impression bot fraud article I think I saw on Lemmy recently, but alas. It’s a scammy house of cards.
I guess what I’m thinking is this scenario: if a person never had a gmail account or used any google products ever, google still makes bank off that person by using third-party cookies & scripts, cross-site tracking, fingerprinting, Ad ID / Device ID sync, et al. How can you not call that data theft when you don’t use their products?
Now I’m sure somewhere in the google products TOS, it states you will bend over and spread your cheeks, but for the person that doesn’t use said company’s products, this seems a bit different.
I’ve always thought (anecdotally - no substantiating evidence) that advertising on the internet, which is much different that advertising in a magazine or billboard, is probably a loss leader or close to it. The real value for the product manufacturer is the data they steal from you. In all honesty, I can’t think of a product or service I’ve purchased that was based on an advertisement. 99.999% of the time, I know what I need or have a really good idea, and will research it on the internet extensively, depending on value, and make my purchase based on my research. It also could be that I have made it a concerted effort to never see any online advertisements on my network, so maybe I am not as affected as those who see ads in every square inch of their monitor every day, like they’re on a porn site.
Network so tight I call it virgin. /s
Well ya. This is like saying you don’t get why guns are dangerous and then mentioning how you have bullet proof windows.
The whole scheme breaks apart if you block the constant images trying to make you buy things. I see it affecting others, no one in their right mind would buy a 100k car if it wasn’t for ads imo.
But the whole purpose of stealing your data is to better serve you ads. So I’m not seeing anywhere in your argument that shows actual profit.
Well, it wasn’t so much an argument as it was a muse. I’m not a marketing guru and again, I am expert at nothing.I do run several businesses, but word of mouth is my advertisement.
The purpose of an advertisement, say in a magazine or on a billboard, is to sell you goods or services. Those goods or services are ‘$Price A’ which is cost to manufacture, taxes/applicable fees, plus overhead and profit. On the internet, yet another element is added and a very invasive element: Data Collection & Brokering. So, without even selling you goods or services, the company in question is making bonus bucks from collecting your data and using it/selling/trading it. So, on the internet, the company in question is double dipping IMHO. Once for enticing you to buy their goods or services, and the most nefarious IMHO, collecting your data via all manner of sneaky ways. So, it seems to me, whether or not they sell you a product or service, they’re already making bank on a global scale, and not affording you due compensation for creating the data in the first place. Creating takes labor and labor is compensated with $$. If it means billions of dollars to the company in question, then it’s worth a lot to little ol’ me. Even if it were just clicking a mouse or typing on a keyboard, your data has high value, and they know it.
I call this data theft. It is the very same offense if I walked into the CEO’s office of a fore mentioned corporation, and picked up a paper weight, stuck it in my pocket, and walked out the door. It’s data theft. Now it may be the bowl talking so feel free to spool me right up if I have err’d in my thought process.
Not only that, but literally the only reason we even have these popups now is because of recent European laws
I mean the alternative is that they simply sell it without your consent.
i mean, they still do that anyway, for all we know the “disagree” button does fuck all. but at least now we know that they do it, hooray?
Maybe they do, but this way at least they’re legally liable for ignoring consent.
Yeah that’s my point