• Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Complete compatibility (because you are running office on Windows natively through a virtual machine rather than a translation/compatibility layer like Wine or Proton) with any of those tricky windows-locked programs that have intentional roadblocks to disrupt normal compatibility methods.

    If it wasn’t Office, Adobe, or Autodesk, I wouldn’t bother, but those 3 are enough of a pain to run via compatibility layer that a virtual machine would be preferrable.

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        You get the best of both worlds - you can keep all of your other programs, data, and activity off of Microsoft’s ecosystem and Windows, while still having access to crucial programs required for certain jobs or activities. The only downside is performance, because running a GPU passthrough for a virtual machine is a bit of a pain in the nuts, but that’s why I mentioned only using that solution for specialist programs that intentionally try to trip you over - use Wine or Proton for everything else.

        Plus, it’s a bit defeatist to go “Fine Microsoft/Autodesk/Adobe, here’s my data” because they’re being a dick to you. Just flip them the bird and run a virtual machine or even a cracked version on the virtual machine.

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          you can keep all of your other programs, data, and activity off of Microsoft’s ecosystem and Windows

          How do you figure that? You’re just running Windows inside of Linux, along with all it’s cancer.

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            24 hours ago
            • Using Windows Virtual Machine for explicitly few programs (less than 2 ideally)
            • Able to be shut off at any time (or wiped/remade completely)
            • Ran in a VM for complete network security
            • If cracked, software can be ran in the VM completely offline
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              Using Windows Virtual Machine for explicitly few programs (less than 2 ideally)

              That goes for normal Windows.

              Able to be shut off at any time (or wiped/remade completely)

              Normal Windows

              Ran in a VM for complete network security

              How does running it in a VM improve network security?

              If cracked, software can be ran in the VM completely offline

              Normal Windows 1 more time.

              All the things you can do in a VM you can do running Windows normally.

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                22 hours ago

                Man, you must be fun at parties.

                • No dual boot needed, can use Linux exclusive programs and have data stored outside of the VM for easy access
                • Able to take advantage of the performance improvements of using Linux as your daily driver compared to Windows (most notably lower memory usage)
                • Not barred by Windows 11’s requirements (largely irrelevant for the software you want to use this with, but it’s a factor)

                Also two things, since I’m confused on if you’re playing coy or are just in a contrarian mood:

                • Yes, all of the functions inside the VM can be achieved with a standard Windows install. However, we are looking at this situation through the lens of a user who wants to use Linux with access to their Windows programs that throw roadblocks (AKA the original commenter of this comment train)

                • Regarding network security, the advantage of not using Windows as your main operating system is that you have a stable, secure baseline, without any fears of unwanted telemetry or addons included in the package (such as copilot). You can debloat windows, but you can never be truly sure that those issues won’t return in the next update or are fully disabled. With a VM that’s not running… well, it’s not running. Not connected to the internet.

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                  Man you must recycle jokes at parties.

                  No dual boot needed, can use Linux exclusive programs and have data stored outside of the VM for easy access

                  Yes but if you dual boot there’s no VM needed LOL

                  I just can’t possibly comprehend why you would prefer that when dual booting is so much simpler…

                  Able to take advantage of the performance improvements of using Linux as your daily driver compared to Windows (most notably lower memory usage)

                  So you mean to tell me running Windows inside of Linux uses less RAM than just Windows? How does that work?

                  Not barred by Windows 11’s requirements

                  I mean you can get around that using Rufus easy enough (I’m told).

                  we are looking at this situation through the lens of a user who wants to use Linux with access to their Windows programs

                  But why?

                  the advantage of not using Windows as your main operating system is that you have a stable, secure baseline, without any fears of unwanted telemetry or addons

                  I’m not sure you understand how a VM works. There’s nothing about a VM that removes telemetry or add-ons from Windows…

                  And who said anything about a “main operating system”? Linux can still be your “main”.

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                    Yes but if you dual boot there’s no VM needed LOL

                    You want to reboot the entire system when you need to use a Windows only application? Instead of just opening up a VM?

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            You can restrict network access to the VM and still do normal network stuff on the host machine, for one thing.

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                21 hours ago

                …what? How are you going to do any modern day work on the host machine with no Internet access? Are you going to air gap your windows machine?

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                    Depends on what you need to do. You could mount a folder to get files in or out, for some cases.

                    Have you used virtual machines before? Done software development?